Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 01:18 pm, by: Ben Evans(Sbyder)
Anyone know a good place to get my torque convertor strengthened and the stally stepped up a notch or two? In the brissy area. Ive got a quote for $194 all done and new bearings etc.. but just wanted to see if anyone knows someone better/cheaper.
I only want a 2800rpm stally or something, i dont want a full rebuild etc... Thanks peoples Ben}
Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 02:52 pm, by: Chris Davey(Chris_davey)
I didn’t know it was possible to strengthen a torque converter. They can re-angle fins and modify it to up the stall to a max of 2800rpm using all stock stuff or 3400rpm using a pajero housing. That price is very cheap for 2800rpm stall.
If you can get it at that price I would go ahead. From what I remember MV charge a bit more than that. I can’t remember that well though as I was looking at 4000rpm torque converter.
WHy do you only want 2800rpm if you are going single? I would think 3400rpm would be better. Also, make sure stall is the last thing you do as each mod you do can change how it reacts as the torque curve changes. (typically goes higher up in the rev range and lower in the lower rev range)
Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 03:02 pm, by: Ben Evans(Sbyder)
apparently they do all the bearings, the fins and reweld it all up and do other things i cant remember... lol
I only want to do a small 2800rpm stally because i dont want it to be crazy on the street, and because then they dont have to use different housing which means i dont have to pay a lot more.
I already have the turbo, and it makes 250rwkw on low boost. The auto I have now is stuffed .
Its slipping in 2nd and 3rd gears and 1st gear acts like park does that sound familiar to anyone?
I have another to swap in, and its in great condition. I wont be drifting with this box (which is what killed the old one). It will have the 1.5 shift kit, 2800rpm stally, transmax Z and dual tranny coolers. Should do nicely to hold up 250RWKW.
Got any other recommendations for me? Im always listening and thanks for your words
Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 03:15 pm, by: Chris Davey(Chris_davey)
Sounds like a plan then. You are right about the cost. IIRC the 3400rpm was closer to $600. The custom 4000rpm stall I was looking at through TCE was about $1000 and that doesn’t have a lockup.
What is a transmax Z?
Of course, as well as the engine combo the use of the car is the other determining factor when choose a torque converter. So this is just for a little extra oomph off the line then and mainly for general street driving? Do you do any drag racing? What rpm does boost start to build and what rpm do you make full boost at?
Either way, a 2800rpm is still a substantial jump over stock and will definitely be a good upgrade. It is one thing that a lot of people don’t worry about with their autos and it will usually make a huge difference (especially in drag racing). My stock torque converter was responsible for my 2.5sec 60 foots and no boost until quarter track. Still finalising stuff though before I get mine.
BTW I think you would find that there is actually very little difference between a 2800rpm and a 3400rpm stall for general driving. They are both going to be slightly looser than a stock stall but the real difference is when you are actually stalling it up for a race. (I don’t race on the street ) But in the end, you really can’t go wrong for a 2800rpm for that price.
Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 03:27 pm, by: Ben Evans(Sbyder)
Castrol Transmax Z, really really good fluid Yeah just general driving, might go to the drags once or twice a year. and yeah i just want a little more response off the line. My tacho is not working since the EMS Stinger was put in, but i think boost hits at around 4,000rpm. Big turbo
the old auto managed a 2.7 60ft and a 13.4 quarter, so thats ok.
Tuesday, December 06, 2005 - 03:45 pm, by: Graham Dollisson(Alloyvee)
Castrol Transmax Z - full synthetic auto fluid. Able to take more heat!!
Straight from the Castrol site- Full synthetic Dexron III type automatic transmission fluid with proven outstanding performance in high temperature and severe duty applications. Particularly suitable for competition use, towing or arduous high temperature service. May be used wherever Dexron fluids are recommended.
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 07:32 am, by: Ben Evans(Sbyder)
111mph and thats with a slipping auto. Should do 12s when i get this auto in.
Ive talked to a torque convertor specialist whos is going to do the fins, thrust plate, new bearing/s, and change the housing to a camry (or something similar) and get the stally up to about 3000rpm... all for...$190!!!
nice! thats the best price yet.
Im getting the old autos' shift get swapped into the new auto, new pump seal put in the new auto and all the labour to swap them over for $400... is that a good price? Mind you, i will be buying the fluid.
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 07:50 am, by: Chris Davey(Chris_davey)
Sounds pretty good to me. I haven't really done that much with autos myself but I have installed a custom shift kit and that was pretty easy. You could do it yourself but I think the $150 for labour is probably easier than you trying to do it under your car. I have done it when the auto is out of the car but I am dreading doing it to the auto currently in the car.
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 11:16 am, by: Luke Nieuwhof(Luke_nieuwhof)
Get that 60 foot down! Making the power you are there should be some sub 2 second 60 foots, I've run a 2.0 in a stocker (prepped track though). Go for the 12s!
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 11:18 am, by: Ben Evans(Sbyder)
well the torque convertor place is Queensland torque convertors. His name is Peter. Ph: 3356 6066. Just note that the price may differ if it takes more than he thinks to get it all done.
The auto swap is at dolphin automatics at Kippa-Ring. which is 400 swap and seals etc..
For the whole thing including fluid it'll be around $700
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 11:40 am, by: Ben Evans(Sbyder)
Luke, yeah it has a slipping auto and a huge turbo, so any boost off-line was pretty hard to get. I should at least get a 1.8 sec 60ft if all goes well.
Wednesday, December 07, 2005 - 12:43 pm, by: Chris Davey(Chris_davey)
Thanks Neil, hadn't heard of that before.
Luke: then he has to get front runners as well though. (I am sure you know this but unsure if he does) It all adds up. I was thinking of going slicks as well but can't afford to have 8 wheels, 4 street tyres, 2 slicks and 2 skinnies.
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