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Ken Yo
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Victoria
V8

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 07:32 pm, by:  Ken Yo (Khangz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got in contact with Mr Peter Taplin. I've decided to hell with it, convert the damn thing already!

I need to find the correct W58 box. I will post WTB section of the gearbox soon enough and the following parts below.

Peter said I must find these parts for the conversion;

* Clutch lines
* Clutch pedal box
* Clutch pedal
* Brake pedal
* Clutch Master cylinder
* Gearbox (correct length)
* Floor insulator and metal surround
* Shifter

Question; Are these parts from the TT Soarers if so how much am I looking at?

I'll be getting this kit from
http://www.bulletcars.com/parts-services/gearbox-conversion-kits/ which looks reasonable.

My goal is to convert the whole thing for $5000 or less parts and labor which Peter says is achievable.

Not after big power gains so the W58 will do (200rwkws would be nice and no turbo/supercharger). I just need assistance to help me finalize this and get the conversion done!

Thoughts and comments would be nice cheers :-)
Bernard Smith-Roberts
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ACT
Soarer V8

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 07:42 pm, by:  Bernard Smith-Roberts (Gaze) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ken,
Do you have an aftermarket exhaust?

the Bullet kit will NOT allow you to use the stock exhaust. (left cat will not bolt back up)

I got a braided line made up for my clutch line, and made the brake pedal myself out of some 6mm plate using the auto pedal as a template.

Everything else (excluding gearbox) you can get from Castle Hill Toyota. You'll need a W-series slip yoke, and to have your tailshaft modified to fit it.

You can use the stock cross member with an NA supra gearbox mount, but you'll have to space it down by about 7mm.
Ken Yo
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Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 07:52 pm, by:  Ken Yo (Khangz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI Bernard,

Yes I have an aftermarket catback exhaust system.

Peter tells me that he will do all the works for me, so all I need to do is find the parts above. What difference is the Bullet kit to the one Castle Hill one?
Christian Somerville
DieHard
South Australia
UZZ31 V8 LTD

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Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 11:09 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ken good to see you going ahead! I am doing mine down the track, but 6 speed T56 as I am getting headers and they won't fit with the W58.

Good luck,

Can't wait to drive her.
Dan McColl
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Victoria (The Nazi State)
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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 12:21 am, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Plenty of people run headers with the W58.
Christian Somerville
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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 12:42 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not Rush ones Dan, ask Neil.
Steven Anderson
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NSW
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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 03:57 pm, by:  Steven Anderson (Cusscuss) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My headers had to have the beaten out of them to fit past the slave cyl with an R154. 2 of the runners are 1/2 the size they should be, doesnt effect power yet though.
Bernard Smith-Roberts
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ACT
Soarer V8

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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 04:29 pm, by:  Bernard Smith-Roberts (Gaze) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ken,

Castle Hill is a Toyota dealership - all the parts you'll need (like interior trim, floor insulators, clutch MC etc) can be sourced through them new. In the bullet kit you get:

Bellhousing
flywheel
clutch pressure plate
clutch friction plate
clutch fork pivot
clutch fork
slave cylinder

You'll need new flywheel bolts, and I'd advice a new rear main seal.
Dan McColl
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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 09:57 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Christian Somerville wrote on Monday, June 21, 2010 - 12:42 pm:

Not Rush ones Dan, ask Neil.


Can too, but you need a concentric slave not the stock one.

Have a look on
www.v-eight.com for w58 conversion info.
Ken Yo
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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 10:52 pm, by:  Ken Yo (Khangz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok so far no one has seem to give me a typical price on the parts I stated above. Sigh~
Christian Somerville
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Monday, June 21, 2010 - 11:59 pm, by:  Christian Somerville (Csomers) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It will come Ken, check Castlemaine Rod Shop.
Neil Griffiths
Goo Roo
NSW
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Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 05:19 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ken,
The Bullet kit is from The Rod Shop.
They grind off the CRS casting.

Instead, contact The Rod Shop ( Castlemaine Rod Shop )
http://www.rodshop.com.au/
Talk to Glenn, tell him Neil said to talk to him about the W58 kit.
You should save a few $$.

Yes, the Extractors fowl against the Slave on the W58 and R154 kits that are sold.
The concentric slave has to be made to fit, Manny has done it, but the suppliers do not.


Ken Yo wrote on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 07:32 pm:

* Clutch lines
* Clutch pedal box
* Clutch pedal
* Brake pedal




JZZ30 or JZA80


Ken Yo wrote on Sunday, June 20, 2010 - 07:32 pm:

* Gearbox (correct length)
* Floor insulator and metal surround
* Shifter




JZA80
Costa Tsimiklis
DieHard
Victoria
386.2 rwkw Soon T51R or GT4094 :-O

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Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:36 pm, by:  Costa Tsimiklis (Driftshop) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Tail shaft is also required as the w58 uses a yoke instead of a flange on the v8s.

A TT tail shaft inc mods to suit, should be around $350 or so.

I may know someone who has a W58 spare or even a v8 conversion. I have emailed them so hopingg to hear back by this week.

If you need someone to install, I can get it done in the workshop at a reasonable rate :-)
Ken Yo
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Tuesday, June 22, 2010 - 11:49 pm, by:  Ken Yo (Khangz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very intriguing Costa, I've heard of Peter's work of being very good not that I am challenging your expertise Costa.

If I can get the conversion done properly for $5,000 or less I'd be a very happy man :-)

Let me know what they say about the V8 conversion Costa :-)
Ken Yo
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Wednesday, June 30, 2010 - 06:56 pm, by:  Ken Yo (Khangz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So Neil, if I'm looking at this correctly referring to this link;

http://www.rodshop.com.au/trans_conversions/bh/bh-106a.htm

BELLHOUSING $515
SPIGOT BUSH $49
CUSTOM FLYWHEEL* $715
RING GEAR* $150
THRUST BEARING AND CARRIER* $135

Total for the above components

$1564

*THE ABOVE PARTS ARE NEEDED AT MINIMUM

CLUTCH PLATE $160
PRESSURE PLATE $240
SLAVE CYLINDER $105
SLAVE CYLINDER SPACER PLATE $20

Total for the above components

$2089

So that means I have to get everything above as well as finding;

* Clutch lines
* Clutch pedal box
* Clutch pedal
* Brake pedal
* Gearbox (correct length)
* Floor insulator and metal surround
* Shifter

Correct?
Neil Griffiths
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Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:18 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ken,
Just about on the money. depending on what the trans you find comes with.

The $2,089 are need as minimum.
Bernard Smith-Roberts
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Thursday, July 01, 2010 - 06:29 pm, by:  Bernard Smith-Roberts (Gaze) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The bullet kit is actually cheaper than that, and includes all the stuff you're talking about.

http://www.bulletcars.com/parts-services/gearbox-conversion-kits/

check that link out.
Ken Yo
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Wednesday, July 21, 2010 - 02:13 pm, by:  Ken Yo (Khangz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neil if I were to find a R154 and get this conversion kit:

http://www.rodshop.com.au/trans_conversions/bh/bh-040t.htm

Would there be any other parts I'd have to source? Or just the same as Post: 4989?
Ken Yo
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Thursday, August 05, 2010 - 11:27 pm, by:  Ken Yo (Khangz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think I got all of it :-)

Am I missing anything?


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