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Shane Haverkamp
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nsw
soarer TT

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Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 04:06 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi everyone i'm about to start a manual conversion on my 1992 soarer. and i'm just making sure i have everything. but my main question is about the brakes and the booster thing

on my soarer i currently have the nitrogen canister style one in the top left corner of the engine bay.

on my manual half cut that top left unit is missing (hole in the fire wall) but there is this style one over on the right hand side. and i have what i think is the master cylinder aka the bit you fill up with fluid.



whats the story with this? which should i/can i use during my swap?

another thing i think i'm missing is the clutch lines or does this come out of the unit mentioned above? i do have the clutch master cylinder (part you fill up) but where it mounts on my half cut there doesn't seam to be any lines that run to it.


i asked this in the other conversion thread. but how big do i roughly need to cut the hole for the R145 remote shifter mechanism in the tunnel? i think i remember reading there's a slightly raised/embossed section that needs cutting and i need to fill in the old auto slot.

thanks for any advice on these matters.
Shane Haverkamp
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Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 04:10 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

forgot to add, i also plan on putting an LSD in at the same time i do the swap. i asssume i still only need to lengthen the drive shaft by 50mm and nothing else.

thanks again

shane
Daniel Clarke
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TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Saturday, June 04, 2011 - 06:15 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The thing you have found on the passenger side egainst the firewall , is an ABS unit . Not a master cylinder at all . 99% sure anyways .
Shane Haverkamp
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soarer TT

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Monday, June 06, 2011 - 12:39 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well i guess the better question is, do i actually need to swap my current nitrogen canister setup to the other one when converting to manual?
Shane Haverkamp
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Monday, June 06, 2011 - 04:33 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i think i've answered my own question with, the pictured unit being for a car with out TRC which my donor car doesn't have. so i'll just keep the brake setup as is.
Nik Peacock
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Tasmania
V8 6 Speed Manual

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Monday, June 06, 2011 - 04:43 pm, by:  Nik Peacock (Niko) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shane, the manual will still work with TRC, just need to find another spot to mount the TRC switch, no need to change any of the brake system
Shane Haverkamp
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Monday, July 18, 2011 - 12:42 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nump. still need an answer for the hole for the REMOTE shifter mechanism if any one has done this as its fouling before i can get the transmission into the pilot bearing.
Shane Haverkamp
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Monday, July 18, 2011 - 01:32 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i actually have this style of remote shifter on my soarer at the moment

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/6400/dsc02628km2.jpg

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/dsc02628km2.jpg/

the parts in red are fouling on the trans tunnel. do i really need to cut out half my tunnel just to get it to fit?
Mark Bryant
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2jz na/t manual 5speed and rs4 stagea

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Monday, July 18, 2011 - 03:14 pm, by:  Mark Bryant (2jz_nat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This looks similar to the W58 remote shifter.
Mine was fowling on the transmission tunnel.
I had to cut a lot out and make a new hump shape metal piece to cover the hole I had to cut.

This was a must as I couldnt get the gearbox higher enough to inset into the engine.
Ryan McDonough
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Monday, July 18, 2011 - 06:11 pm, by:  Ryan McDonough (Ryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes you do need to cut the tunnel to make it fit. Doing the same conversion at the moment.
Shane Haverkamp
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Monday, July 18, 2011 - 07:05 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah this is what i ended up cutting out.



how far along are you into your conversion ryan?
Mark Bryant
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Monday, July 18, 2011 - 07:50 pm, by:  Mark Bryant (2jz_nat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This picture is the same as what I had to cut out.
Dan McColl
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Victoria (The Nazi State)
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Monday, July 18, 2011 - 10:23 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You need to do the same tunnel mods as fitting the supra 6 speed. Google it.
Shane Haverkamp
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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 06:35 am, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks for the info dan, did a fair bit of googling but probably wasnt typing in the right things.

i'll have to knock something up at work to cover all those bits up and fill the hole behind it.

How much did it cost you guys to get your drive shafts extended? I think i got a little ripped as mine cost $605. That included a uni joint replacement as well.
Nathan Richardson
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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 08:31 am, by:  Nathan Richardson (Richtheblack) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why didn't you just get a manual drive shaft?
Shane Haverkamp
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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 08:37 am, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

couldnt find one at the time, would have made life alot easier though. Alot of people have of r154 kits available but arent willing to seperate.
Ryan McDonough
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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 06:22 pm, by:  Ryan McDonough (Ryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where did you get the extension done? If you think that is expensive, Toyota told me today I was looking at over 2k for a new factory one!

Just getting the last few parts so I can start installing the box. My pilot bearing turned up today, so just need the tail shaft fixed, and the top extension part of the gearbox repaired, and in she goes. I cut about the same amount out :-(
Shane Haverkamp
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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 08:12 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i got my shaft done at gibsons drive shafts... its the only place in newcastle that will do that kinda work, so it was either go there or try and get it to sydney, which seemed like more trouble then its worth.

i'm actually having some trouble with my dam slave cylinder. with the hose i bought from drift motion bottoming out before the hose picks up. its not driftmotions fault. just the slave cyl hasn't got its thread tapped far enough in.
Dan McColl
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Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - 11:56 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/auto_to_6spd_swap/subtunnel/index.html
Ryan McDonough
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Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 07:11 pm, by:  Ryan McDonough (Ryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bugger. Did the hose reach? It looks like it could just make it, or be just a little to short.
Shane Haverkamp
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Wednesday, July 20, 2011 - 09:14 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah its not the hose's fault. i'm just going to make up 2 half moon spacers i can put in between the thread and the hose end to make it fit.

other then that the hose seems fine.

cant believe that guy went all out and installed at whole new tunnel :S
Ryan McDonough
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Friday, July 22, 2011 - 06:48 pm, by:  Ryan McDonough (Ryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great idea to replace it.

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