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Matthew Werner
TryHard
Qld
jzz30 T

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Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 04:25 pm, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey guys,
ill get straight to the point.

one day while driving my soarer skipped 2nd gear while taking off.. went straight into third. came up with ect and code 63. did e1 and te1. got same code.. reset drove and no o/d or 2nd gear... same code 63.

checked solenoids. 12v 1amp. and acuated fine.. changed with known spares and replaced filter and tranny oil.. (oil always serviced at least every 5th oil change)
threw same code no 2nd or o/d...

removed sard ecu and replaced with oe, ecu.. shifts fine all day long...

MY QUESTION:
does anyone know wat part of the ecu board controls the gearbox and can i swap parts between oem and sard boards with out needing to remoce IC's and stuff.......

i really need my limiters removed
boost rev speed etc..

or any suggestions on a compromise
Dan McColl
Goo Roo
Victoria (The Nazi State)
Pretty Red Thing and The Black Rattler

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Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 06:01 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

90% chance it's a leaky cap, the same as 90% of std ecu failures in these cars. Sard ecu is a modified stock one.

Search around the site for how to replace the caps.
Ryan McDonough
DieHard
NSW
JZZ30 TT

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Monday, April 23, 2012 - 08:27 am, by:  Ryan McDonough (Ryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As above, my Mines does the same thing.
Matthew Werner
TryHard
Qld
jzz30 T

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Monday, April 23, 2012 - 11:13 am, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well im am goin to jus try unsoldering the sard chip and swap it onto oem board.. its one of the big ic chips...
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Monday, April 23, 2012 - 02:55 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why not check the safe Ecu for leaking caps ? Would be easier instead
Matthew Werner
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jzz30 T

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Monday, April 23, 2012 - 08:03 pm, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well i did exactly wat Daniel suggested anyway haha.. jus went through all the caps on the sard board and found 2 that were out of range.. one was a little above the range and the other was open circuit.. so i replaced them (my father hoards all kinds of random stuff) and took it for a spin.. changes like a dream..

on a side note, wen i pulled the efi fuse to reset the codes i noticed (by accidently touching it) that the efi relay (metal looking cylinder) was freakin hot... this can't be normal can it??

pics of caps : first pic is the one on the main board.. (where the plug connectors join on).
second pic: is the second one on the sub-board where the sard chip platform has been soldered on..
third pic: sard chip platform.
4th pic is the tester i used to figure out which caps where outside nominal range..

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Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Monday, April 23, 2012 - 08:10 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good to see , looks like your handy with electrics . Lucky you :-)
Matthew Werner
TryHard
Qld
jzz30 T

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Tuesday, April 24, 2012 - 10:01 am, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

owned a soarer for bit over 3 yrs now ;)
Evan Kaio
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"Beautiful sunnny, (our Coach sacked most of our All Blacks) 'Canes' country
'91 UZZ31. 92 TT

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Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 09:46 am, by:  Evan Kaio (Knave) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Matthew.

I am having a similar problem with gearbox shifting.

I have checked the caps in 2 TT ECU's and have same results as you.
2 out of range, 1 open circuit, 1 slightly above and 1 ok.
1 Ecu has had caps replaced and the other is original.

Tests between the ECU's were very similar.

Did you record your test results?
Evan Kaio
DieHard
"Beautiful sunnny, (our Coach sacked most of our All Blacks) 'Canes' country
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Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 12:07 pm, by:  Evan Kaio (Knave) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

......................ECU1...........ECU2

35v 15uF..........17uF...........17uF
10v 220uF.........0................0
10v 100uF.........150uF.........160uF
63v 47uF...........247uF.........383uF
35v 33uF...........33uF...........34uF

ECU1 had been recapped 18 months ago.
I'll change the 10v caps to 25v. And replace the 47uF. (uF is microfarad).
Matthew Werner
TryHard
Qld
jzz30 T

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Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 12:54 pm, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i didn't record my findings no.. i was more concerned about keep the wheels spinning with the smoke consistency through 2nd and 3rd gears :-)

the meter i used had a chart on it, it had what voltage (V) and then the unit of microfarads across (uf) it had a preset value on the chart and if the cap was over it then it was screwed and as long as it wasn't too far below the range then it was ok.

i do remember the 35v 33uf cap on the main board was over the range by a little bit.. which was no good... and the 35v 15uf ( located on the 2ndry circuit board) was open circuit..

it was probly a good idea to keep a record so well done :-) and i did compare the caps on the sard ecu to a std ecu and they were very similar.. exact same marked caps, but very slightly different values.

i would really like to know what parts of the board are what. would make the diagnosis a little easier.
Matthew Werner
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Qld
jzz30 T

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Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 08:12 pm, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well..... she effed now,

skipped 2nd again, and then no first.. only third.

so now i have : third gear with no lock up either haha

bought some gear from jaycar while i was on the road and wired up s1 and s2 solenoids to 12v. now i get to shift through all gears myself.

still no torque converter lockup (thats being wired up next..)

guna get the mv's shift box to bypass the sard ecu..

i measured all the caps and they were fine.. so im guessing its brain dead and i couldn be bothered fault finding any further.

i think i will have more fun selecting gears myself anyway :-)
Shane Haverkamp
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soarer TT

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Monday, July 30, 2012 - 05:19 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matthew Werner wrote on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 08:12 pm:

i think i will have more fun selecting gears myself anyway :-)




the exact reason i converted mine to a manual

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