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Andrew Brown
Tinkerer
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Reg: 10-2012

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Wednesday, March 27, 2013 - 10:34 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys,

Just wondering whether I can use any type of t56 gearbox for a conversion or whether I have to use a specific type eg. Holden, ford etc.

Cheers!
Nik Peacock
TryHard
Tasmania
V8 6 Speed Manual

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 09:58 am, by:  Nik Peacock (Niko) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

needs to be a holden one, cant remember the exact year/model, you can also use the magnum just have to machine a couple of grooves into the adapter plate, second hand box $1500-$2000, brand new magnum from dellow etc about $3200, removes any risk of getting a dud second hand one
Andrew Brown
Tinkerer
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Thursday, March 28, 2013 - 10:22 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the clarification Nik, just picked up a holden t56 for $1200 only 80,000km on it
Andrew Pickard
Tinkerer
ACT
TT

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Sunday, May 12, 2013 - 10:44 am, by:  Andrew Pickard (Andyp23) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

HI Andrew, I'm in the exact same process but can't find an adapter plate, the only thing currently available is the dellow bell-housing for $660. What are u planning to use and any idea where to get the adapter plates from?
Cheers
Andy
Andrew Brown
TryHard
NSW
SC400 GT-L V8

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Sunday, May 12, 2013 - 11:22 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah screw dellows lol they want too much money, i'm getting my adapter plate made up from Brintech custom cars. Laurence is who you'll want to speak to, his number is 0412 723 052. he'll be able to help you out
Andrew Pickard
Tinkerer
ACT
TT

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Wednesday, May 15, 2013 - 10:38 am, by:  Andrew Pickard (Andyp23) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for teh info Andrew, did you give them the CAD file? I will ring them today.
Cheers
Andy
Andrew Brown
TryHard
NSW
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Wednesday, May 15, 2013 - 07:22 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah Laurence mentioned he had the CAD file and said he can get them made up as he's doing my whole conversion, but I've just realised that you have a 1jz and the plates being made are for 1uz
Scott Vim
DieHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)

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Wednesday, May 15, 2013 - 09:14 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How much does the whole thing cost in parts and how much in labour?
Andrew Brown
TryHard
NSW
Unbadged Modified V8

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Wednesday, May 15, 2013 - 09:26 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i sourced my own t56 box for $1200, got manual soarer pedals and master cylinder off here from Lew Radbourn for $200.
Brintech supplying t56 adapter plate for $450, manual flywheel $390, clutch kit $650, spigot bearing $25

then around $2000-2500 labour

so worst case total is... $5415

only lose the car for a weekend

I highly recommend Brintech for the job, they have done this conversion many times, not always in a soarer though haha!
Scott Vim
DieHard
Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)

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Wednesday, May 15, 2013 - 11:14 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In Sydney? I've got a r154 but I'm wondering if the t56 is better and/or cheaper if I sell my r154.
Andrew Brown
TryHard
NSW
V8 Beast

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Wednesday, May 15, 2013 - 11:39 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah in sydney, unit 42 / 20 Tucks Rd Seven Hills to be exact

Well neil griffiths recommends the t56 and it is built like a brick sh.ithouse to deal with holden ss power, let an auto 1j have the r154 and convert to 6 speed t56 ;)
Scott Vim
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Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)

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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 02:16 am, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does an r154 collect as much these days?
Scott Vim
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Vic
Soarer (1uz) Chaser (1jz)

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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 02:17 am, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The 6th gear over drive is appealing...
Andrew Brown
TryHard
NSW
V8 Beast

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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 08:26 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well r154 are rarer to come by and t56's are easy to find so I reckon you'd get a fair amount for your r154

Yeah thats what won me over in the end
Allan Langford
DieHard
Vic
UZZ31

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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 10:05 am, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scott unless you are blowing it up the R154 shifts better then a T(ruck)56
Andrew Brown
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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 10:47 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Neil said the r154 shifts like a commercial vehicle lol t56 is from ss commodore and maloo utes
Allan Langford
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Vic
UZZ31

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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 10:57 am, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

GM products are known for refinement :-)

the R154 is no work of art but compared to a T56 if strength is a not an issue I know what I would have!
Andrew Brown
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NSW
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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 11:31 am, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mm maybe but then theres the issue of having 6th gear or not
Scott Vim
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Vic
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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 12:34 pm, by:  Scott Vim (1uz1jz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

R154 have no issue with 250rwkw do they?
Joshua Rao
Goo Roo
WA
TT (for sale $5.2k), 97 Blk UZZ31, 97 JZZ30 vvti turbo white manual, 96 vvti turbo manual, Legnum VR4, MR2 sw20, Alfa 156

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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 01:08 pm, by:  Joshua Rao (Soaren1) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No there strong as
Andrew Brown
TryHard
NSW
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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 01:30 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It pretty much comes down to wanting a sixth gear, or going crazy with torque and power as to which one you choose

If you've already got the r154 id say stick with it as you could wait for a while to find a decent cheap t56
Brett Harrison
DieHard
QLD
JZZ30

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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 06:58 pm, by:  Brett Harrison (Bretto) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The newer TR6060 is a much nicer box if you can afford it.
Ali Saeed
Goo Roo
WA
RSP JZZ30

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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 11:22 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How much are TR6060s?

I think now you can almost afford to go with v161. Theres a swap in Supra forums for $4k. Obviously you will need the big diff as well so add in another k.
Andrew Brown
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NSW
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Thursday, May 16, 2013 - 11:29 pm, by:  Andrew Brown (Crazyassdrummerboy) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Saw one on ebay for $3100 so I'm assuming they're all around that mark
Ian Johnston
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South Australia
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Monday, August 19, 2013 - 07:59 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see Castlemaine Rod shop do an adaptor plate for the T56 to V8 auto bell housing, and the six cyl as well.

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