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Jeff O'Rourke
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ACT
wantasoarer

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 02:56 pm, by:  Jeff O'Rourke (Fordz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys

Whats the going rate for a shift kit for the auto box of the JZZ30 soarer. I've been told it could shave upto 0.5 second off 1/4 mile times, is this true...

Cheers
Anish Varsani
TryHard
QLD
V8 UZZ30

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 04:50 pm, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

$385 from MV automatics or close to nothing if you follow the UK autobox mod.
Jeff O'Rourke
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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 05:04 pm, by:  Jeff O'Rourke (Fordz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sweet, got a link for that buddy?

Anyone else know if its true regarding a shift kit cutting that amount of time off your quarter mile?
Tobias Trinks
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Queensland
JZZ31

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 06:47 pm, by:  Tobias Trinks (Toby) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://www.lexusclub.co.uk/lsocautoboxmod.pdf

Did anybody try the mod? Are the results comparable to the shift kit? And is a safe thing to do? Don't want my gearbox to blow up after a couple of thousand k's
Tobias Trinks
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Queensland
JZZ31

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 06:59 pm, by:  Tobias Trinks (Toby) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And where can you get 6mm shims?
Anish Varsani
TryHard
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V8 UZZ30

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 07:32 pm, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Measure the spring diameter and get aluminium rod and cut to length.

If you want real hard shifts, cut some copper pipe to the same length as the accumulator springs and install instead of the springs.
Tobias Trinks
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JZZ31

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 08:06 pm, by:  Tobias Trinks (Toby) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

According to LSOC it is not that easy. Just to quote one of the threads:

...as you can't just pack it with washers or the like, as the valve body is not machined finished, and is slightly coned in shape. It took us some time to get the correct diameter on Bedlam's lathe, so the shim fits like a glove, and believe it or not, we used equipment that is used, and calibrated, to manufacture F1 bearings shells to measure, and machine the shims
Anish Varsani
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V8 UZZ30

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Wednesday, February 22, 2006 - 08:42 pm, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you get a stage 2 MV shift kit it comes with copper pipe cut to length. It wont make much difference if the fit is flush or not. At the end of the day, with shims all you're doing is tentioning the spring so there's less dampening of the shift shock.
Chris Davey
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QLD
Corona

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 10:38 am, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I know I have been saying it for a while but I am about to do the mod. BTW the it is not the UK soarer club mod it is from a guy on
www.sf.com.

If the MV stage 2 uses a rod then I think I will go that way. I didn't know it did. I was going to use 8mm shims. By shims I just mean a nut that is 8mm wide and sits on top of the accumulator spring. That is how I did it when I was practicing on the spare box.
Ben Evans
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Qld
"Master Power" Turbo 1J With Xtras

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:39 am, by:  Ben Evans (Sbyder) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i thought the 1.5 kit comes with one copper pipe the rest springs and the pressure already adjusted as per the mod above?

Ben
Chris Davey
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Corona

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 11:44 am, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

and if that is the case, does the pipe go on the b2 or c2 accumulator? They are the ones that I shimmed up last time.
Anish Varsani
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V8 UZZ30

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:07 pm, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Pipe 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd accumlators. Will have to wait till get home and have a look at the diagram to tell you what the names are.

Michael was saying that he fiddles with the lockup pressure setting as well. There might be another dial for that somewhere. I'm not sure if this is for lock up rpm change or to give a firmer grip for the lockup clutch.

With the MV 1.5 kit I think the pipe goes in 1st to 2nd and the spring in 2nd to third.
Anish Varsani
TryHard
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V8 UZZ30

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:13 pm, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anyone still got the MV installation instructions? If you do can you scan and email it to me? I can't remember which spring/s I changed now with the stage 1 kit.
Brendan Hax
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JZX90 Chaser Tourer-V

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:24 pm, by:  Brendan Hax (Chaser_94) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

stage 1 mv shift kit, you only change the first 2 second spring from the 2 seperate springs to 1 stiffer spring, well thats what my instructions told me...
Benjamin Burgess
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NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:25 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No pipe in the stage 1.5 kit, just installed one on the weekend. Only comes with a new spring and the valve body.
Chris Davey
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Corona

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:26 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks mate, looks like 2 pipes it is for me :-)
Chris Davey
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Corona

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 12:30 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so only stage 2 has no springs and only pipes then. 1.5 has one upgraded spring. And stage 1 also change to one upgraded spring.

I wonder if the spring is the same or different between 1 and 1.5? I would think it would be but you never know.
Benjamin Burgess
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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 01:31 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Spring was pretty stiff compared to the stocker I pulled out. No idea how it goes yet, car was only finished today (ie the single turbo and piping is all done).
Chris Davey
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Corona

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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 01:37 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good stuff Ben. Bet you can't wait to take it for a spin :-)
Benjamin Burgess
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Thursday, February 23, 2006 - 01:40 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah can't wait, should be fun, totally different car to what it was 3.5 months ago, and about $10k later.
Ben Evans
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Monday, February 27, 2006 - 10:20 pm, by:  Ben Evans (Sbyder) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mm, i must have the stage 2 then :-) SWEET!
Rob Andreacchio
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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 07:11 am, by:  Rob Andreacchio (Reepa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ben, after speaking to Michael yesterday, he advised that the shift kits will only handle about 265rwkw, any more than that and an upgraded box is required with extra clutch plates.
Chris Davey
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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 08:05 am, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so the options are then

see how you go with the shift kit and how many you can replace before you get to the price of an upgraded box

or

go upgraded box straight up. That is about $2300 isn't it? But I thought that comes with trans cooler and stally so if you already have these then it could be cheaper.
Benjamin Burgess
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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 09:39 am, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yep I was told 270rwkw is the max and its due to the surface area of the clutches combined in the standard a340e gearbox. When they upgrade the box, they simply put in more surface area to cope with the uprated power figure.
Rob Andreacchio
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Tuesday, February 28, 2006 - 10:03 am, by:  Rob Andreacchio (Reepa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

2300 is without the shift kit, or 2600 with shift kit.. no stally or cooler.

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