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Khalid Sarwari
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 05:24 pm, by:  Khalid Sarwari (1jzspeed) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i am havin problems with my new gear box shifting from 2nd to third when i put my foot down, it kicks back to second from third; once its in second it will only rev out to 4500rpm to 5000rpm and then change to third and same with third to OD.
I have checked to see if its the emanage but that is ok and all is correctly wired even tripple checked it.
I have called Mike at MV autos and he suggested to put LED's across wire S1, S2 he said they were the solinoides for the some shifting or other???
has anyone else had this problem or know what could be causing this and maybe how to diagnose it easier than what mike has suggested...
Please help i am really boggled i have called earl in lilydale and he just suggested to bring it over but still he was not sure, and i dont want this to become a very constly excercise.
Ronny Jeremy
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 06:36 pm, by:  Ronny Jeremy (Ronnie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LED's as in Lights?
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 06:40 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The LED's would be to see if/when the solenoids are getting power. Probably looking for more clues as to why this is happening.
Dragan Vidic
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 06:45 pm, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh and if anyone knows where the S1 and S2 are can you plz let us know ASAP cos me and Khalid are gonna try that out tomorrow
Ronny Jeremy
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 06:49 pm, by:  Ronny Jeremy (Ronnie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A multi meter would be good enough.

But anyway, Did mick say any thing about left over volts and that's the reason why he told you to connect LED's?
Ronny Jeremy
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 06:53 pm, by:  Ronny Jeremy (Ronnie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dragan Vidic wrote on Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 06:45 pm:

Oh and if anyone knows where the S1 and S2 are can you plz let us know ASAP cos me and Khalid are gonna try that out tomorrow




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Chris Davey
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 06:53 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look in the TC lockup thread. I put the instructions for the MV auto box which tell you where the solenoid wires are. I don't actually know why it would be shifting early though? You would need to know exactly what input sensors are used to determine why it is shifting early. Have you checked for any codes in the ECT?
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:13 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Probably the LED's are easier to see when driving rather than trying to watch a multimeter.
Dragan Vidic
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:23 pm, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mate thats too confusing for me and im too sick to try to figure it out at the moment. Are those wires running to the ecu at all? if so where?


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Khalid Sarwari
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:23 pm, by:  Khalid Sarwari (1jzspeed) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks heaps guys for you responses much appreciated, i have had a mechanic to hook up a scanner to check for errors and there wasnt any which doenst really mean much i guess it eliminates one section.
Peter yeah it all makes sense when i saw the other thread about installing a manual shift box, to see which is one and at what sequence i guess,i am just not sure which wire is the s1 and s2 on the ecu and how to locate it have any idea or diagrams please
Ronny Jeremy
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:26 pm, by:  Ronny Jeremy (Ronnie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That's ok Pen
I had a very long discussion with mick over solenoids, just want to know if voltage was the problem
Dragan Vidic
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:40 pm, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

your a legend mate

thanx a lot
Dragan Vidic
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:43 pm, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hang on....isnt the light blue box ignition 1???
Ronny Jeremy
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:44 pm, by:  Ronny Jeremy (Ronnie) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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solenoid 1 ( light blue )

solenoid 2 ( blue )

Sorry, Fat fingers got in the way :-P
Dragan Vidic
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 07:46 pm, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol ahh that looks better
Chris Davey
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Wednesday, April 19, 2006 - 08:09 pm, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No the ecu switches 12v through them to turn them on. If you put an LED between each wire then you should be able to see when the solenoids are being switched. Just make sure that the LED can handle the current.
Benny Gammelmark
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Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 09:16 am, by:  Benny Gammelmark (Oldfield) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like the car thinks you're just cruising and haven't put your foot down all the way.

I haven't really got a clue but could it be in the throttle cable/body?
Dragan Vidic
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Thursday, April 20, 2006 - 09:24 am, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If he puts it in L or 2 and manually changes it its fine....only in D
Chris Davey
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Friday, April 21, 2006 - 10:30 am, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I don’t know exactly but if it only does it in drive then that leads me to believe that is something to do with the sensors the ecu is receiving. If it was mechanical it would do it when he shifts manually as well. But if you have checked for errors and there isn’t any then I am stumped. Your fluids are fresh and full?
Khalid Sarwari
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Friday, April 21, 2006 - 02:43 pm, by:  Khalid Sarwari (1jzspeed) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris i think matey your spot on i am gettin a live scanner put on the car to check whats wrong...
Callum Finch
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Tuesday, April 25, 2006 - 04:14 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I didnt read too deeply into this, but could it be the kickdown cable is too tight?
Dragan Vidic
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Wednesday, April 26, 2006 - 04:01 am, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No it couldnt...it was loose then we tightened it all the way....same $hit
Marcin Kurek
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Thursday, May 15, 2008 - 08:42 pm, by:  Marcin Kurek (Blk747) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

did you end up working out this problem? i have the exact same problem and it doesnt do it all the time but it does do it! specially when i go to run someone and it does it thats the most annoying time it does it has anyone got any idea?
Braden Murdoch
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Tuesday, May 20, 2008 - 03:01 pm, by:  Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe TPS not set correctly?
"Kickdown" cable has nothing to do with when it kicks down. It controls line pressure.

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