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Nathan Siy
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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 05:15 am, by:  Nathan Siy (Natesiy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If i can't get it in, i pump the clutch a few times and then throw it in, but it makes a grinding noise going into the gear. Anyone else have this problem with the R154?

Low fluid? Bad fluid?

How do i check the level and viscosity of the manual gearbox?
Shane McInnes
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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 04:20 pm, by:  Shane McInnes (Soarin_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a similar problem and am using Redline Light Weight Shock Proof gear oil and it goes into Reverse quite easy now. Still not perfect, but a big improvement.

Or you could try Redline MTL, i perfer the above.
Don Bagnall
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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 05:09 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nathan,
Put de car up on a hoist, or ramp or whatever they're called in Moose land, and you'll see a large(ish) bolt/plug/socket thingy at the lowest point of the cog box.
Ensuring that you have a suitable container to catch the old crappy oil when it comes out, remove said thingy until all the old crap has drained, then re-install the thingy, and check for a thingy approx the same size about 1/2 way up the side of the main cog box housing, remove it, and refill with fresh Redline Light Weight Shock Proof gear oil (available from your nearest Auto Parts store!) till it just starts to dribble out of the filler plug hole thingy, then re-install the bung, and go for a drive.
It takes a few kilometers for the fresh oil to take effect, so don't expect instant gratification.

This should make a noticable difference to the way the transmission shifts.

Josh Rafton
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TT manual

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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 05:59 pm, by:  Josh Rafton (5tyl5h) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got a brand new clutch and Redline MTL gear oil and its still a bit "clucky" to get into reverse some times. I find that puting it in first then trying reverse tends to help.
Neil Griffiths
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NSW
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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 - 08:01 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nathan,Possablities are
Weak Master or Slave Cylinder.
Weak Pressure Plate.
Rev's to high.
Trying to engage to quick.
Not pressing the pedal in far enough to slow the friction plate down.( Lazy Leg )
Does it grind a little going into 1st ?
Nathan Siy
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Wednesday, July 05, 2006 - 08:29 am, by:  Nathan Siy (Natesiy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope. never grinds in any other gear.

I'll try a tranny flush soon and get some new gear oil in it. i hope it helps.

If it's any of the others tho...weak master or slave cylinder, pressure plate, how are repairs going to be on those?
Nathan Siy
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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 03:07 am, by:  Nathan Siy (Natesiy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got the tranny flushed and refilled with Mobil 1 synthetic gear oil. Big improvement, but still got issues with reverse sometimes.

Feels like a locking pin or something that is blocking it from Reverse. pumping the clutch a few times seems to get rid of it though.

Could it be something else?
Matthew Sharpe
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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 06:55 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Clutch master/slave OK? Enough travel? Reverse is often more sensitive to this than forward gears. The fact that pumping the pedal helps also kinda points to this.
Shane McInnes
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Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 09:36 am, by:  Shane McInnes (Soarin_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nathan mine seems to still be like yours aswell.

But im getting a worse problem now. Which is the clutch pedal is losing pressure at high rpms and is either getting stuck in gear or not letting me get into gear because the clutch pedal seems to lose all pressure. After pumping the pedal several times i can get back into gear. That has happened over 2weeks now and has got to the point i cant drive the car now. Its now in the workshop getting a new Master Cylinder.

If this fixes the problem of getting me into reverse ill let you know. Either way im not getting my car back untill it is fixed so ill let you know what ever gets fixed and if it helps me get it into reverse easy aswell.
Nathan Siy
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 08:46 am, by:  Nathan Siy (Natesiy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I now have a grinding noise some of the time going into 3rd gear. I don't know if i messed up the synchros when i missed a shift drag racing.

I'm going to try the RedLine MT-90 today and see if that helps 3rd gear and reverse.
Shane McInnes
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 11:25 am, by:  Shane McInnes (Soarin_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a very Similar problem Nathan with 3rd gear and the Redline Light Weight Shock Proof fixed this problem. Ive never used the MT-90 so cant comment on that.

I dont have a update on the Reverse though.
Nathan Siy
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 12:29 pm, by:  Nathan Siy (Natesiy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What is Redline Light Weight Shock proof? is it an oil addative? i haven't seen it around.
Don Bagnall
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Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 01:06 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Nathan Siy wrote on Saturday, August 12, 2006 - 12:29 pm:

What is Redline Light Weight Shock proof?



Nathan,
It's another type of Redline oil, which people are finding IS superior to the Redline MT-90 when used in Soarer boxes.............I would strongly suggest using it
Nathan Siy
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Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 04:17 am, by:  Nathan Siy (Natesiy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Fak! The MT-90 didn't do anything. Still the same.

I read up on it, its a 2 stoke gear oil eh. I'll have to hunt that down to get my hands on some.
Shane McInnes
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Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 08:22 am, by:  Shane McInnes (Soarin_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the Redline LWSP doesnt fix your problem with 3rd gear, I dunno what will. I was gonna look into getting my Gearbox rebuilt if my problem didnt go away with the Redline LWSP.
Richard Ferrara
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Friday, April 03, 2009 - 09:52 am, by:  Richard Ferrara (426440) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just bought some Redline Light Weight Shockproof from Reliance Rotaries (ACT). They were the only place that stocked it. $158 a gallon. USE IT :-)

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