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Damian Ware
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 12:18 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have read that some people don't use toyota auto fluid. That may be fine with shift kits but what is the best fluid for a stock auto.

Just another thing what is the capacity of the stock auto without an additional cooler.

Thanks in advance
Benjamin Burgess
DieHard
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 12:49 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I used toyota type IV before I shift kitted. It was fine, loved it. I have to run dexron III now.
Anish Varsani
TryHard
QLD
V8 UZZ30

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 05:31 pm, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don't have to use T-IV with a shift kit. It is convenient to get a hold of on a weekend though.

T-IV works fine with a shift kit.

I had about 4.8L come out of mine. Most manufacturers oil look ups show 2L for the LS400. Not sure why.
Anish Varsani
TryHard
QLD
V8 UZZ30

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 05:32 pm, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Forgot to mention, 4.8L in the sump, ie, drain the sump and refill. The whole tranny holds around 12L. You'd have to pull the cooler line and pump it out if you want to change all 12L.
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Tuesday, September 12, 2006 - 09:25 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Type4 in mine. With a shift kit. Hasnt skipped a beat!

I think its just the gearboxes on the v8's that get all upset if you dont use Dexron3?

One handy thing my mechanic does for me as part of my service is drop the pan on the gearbox and let it drain out. Usually empties about ~2L worth. Top it back up again and good to go!
If you do that 4 times a year with your servicing then it should always be in a good fresh level! =P

Tranny cooler if you do track days ;)
Anish Varsani
TryHard
QLD
V8 UZZ30

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 05:55 am, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The small black valve that fell out when I installed my shift kit must have been an anti drain back valve if I'm getting almost 5L by draining the sump.

Not too worry. Michael from MV didn't think it was important to put it back.
Paul Christian
Tinkerer
WA
Soarer JZZ31

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 07:26 pm, by:  Paul Christian (Paul_christian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had dexron III put in my non turbo transmission but I think the changes have become a bit less smooth. Does anyone know if it's better to use toyota type IV instead of dexron III for the non-turbo JZZ31?
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Wednesday, September 13, 2006 - 11:29 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If the gearbox is the same in the 31's as the 30's (likely) then i think ultimately its personal pref.

My mechanic uses Type4 because he says he hasnt had any problems with transmissions when using it, and does the job well. Why change? *shrug*
Damian Ware
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 11:22 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I ended up using TQ DEX III as the local toyota said they use it.

Their toyota manuals also had my car and almost all of similar vintage as mine where listed as TQ DEX III.

Since flushed I haven't had any problems, I wouldn't be suprised if toyota buys the fluid of one of the manufactures instead of manufacturing it themselves.
Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
I have WAY less Soarers than Hayden :-(

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Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 01:38 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

V8 Soarer MUST use Toyota Type 4 fluid (Unless fitted with modified valve body, then dexron III can be used) .

6 Cyl. Soarers use Dexron III standard OR modified.

Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 02:16 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

At any rate, when putting in either types it looks like some sort of sweet strawberry syrup.. just want to stick out my finger and taste some! =P
Graham Dollisson
DieHard
QLD
GTTL Morris Marina P76

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Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 02:17 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Go on...do it...then let us know what it tastes like!!!
Don Bagnall
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New Zealand
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Sunday, September 17, 2006 - 03:39 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Anish Varsani
TryHard
QLD
V8 UZZ30

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Monday, September 18, 2006 - 06:17 am, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're probably right on Toyota buying the fluid from someone else but it's been made to the T-IV spec. Michael recons is has some additives in it to allow it to survive the additional heat generated by the "slip controlled lockup" of the torque converter and gears in a stock gearbox.

If you take a wiff of the T-IV you'll notice it dosn't have the mineral oil stink to it like Dexron fluids. Wouldn't be supprised if it's part synthetic.
Damian Ware
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 04:57 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it is different why would toyota recommend to use DEX III in almost all there cars.

On the dip stick it also says DEX II.

I haven't had any problems with the DEX III yet but if I do I will change it for some toyota type IV.
Anish Varsani
TryHard
QLD
V8 UZZ30

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Tuesday, September 19, 2006 - 06:07 pm, by:  Anish Varsani (Yomama) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mistake, didn't read that you had a TT. I was refering to v8's with the A341E.
Robert Davies
TryHard
qld
both

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 08:32 am, by:  Robert Davies (Blueone) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

damn... do you have to buy the fluid from Toyota, or can you just get any old type IV??
Peter Nitschke
JunkFilterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Tuesday, December 26, 2006 - 09:45 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Type IV is a Toyota Product.

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