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Mark Ribbans
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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 03:30 pm, by:  Mark Ribbans (V8gtsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys,

It's finally starting to get hot and yesterday when i turned on my A/C the little light on the A/C button starting blinking and i'm not getting any cold air?

Any ideas? Got a feeling this is gonna cost me...
Mark Ribbans
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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 03:34 pm, by:  Mark Ribbans (V8gtsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK well i've just found a post on the Diagnostics page that says this blinking is indictive of 'compressor lock'.

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/1113/1422.html?1104489237

I guess i'll run the diagnostics to find out exactly what is stuffed.

Anyone had this before?
Daniel Czechowski
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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 04:01 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think I've read about this somewhere on SC that it means there is no gas in your a/c system. Check that first perhaps...
Dave Hart
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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 05:27 pm, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You're going to wish you had a decent ac like yesterday the way the mercury's climbing so get it seen to asap.
If it's just needing a re-gas you'll be very lucky. If the compressor's noisy or the clutch has seized then yes it'll cost a few hundred bucks. If you leave it too long then metal particles could end up through the system and you'll be up for $1000's.
Nathan Herbertson
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Wednesday, October 04, 2006 - 05:41 pm, by:  Nathan Herbertson (Herbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had the evaporator under the dash go (leak) a while back and I just recently got it fixed. About $1500 later... that was ALSO replacing the TX valve and getting a retro fit kit fitted.
Dave Hart
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Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 06:03 am, by:  Dave Hart (Davyboy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

See what did I tell you.
Saying that, there's places out there that will rip you off so find someone reputable.
Rod Quaife
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Thursday, October 05, 2006 - 05:26 pm, by:  Rod Quaife (Rod_quaife) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah Mark hope it isw nothing much but I had same problem just after getting my car, blinky light and found compressor and clutch stufffed but that was just before I joined Soarer Club and Toyota quoted me over four grand for new one from Japan and about twenty eight hundred for new one from Toyota Aussie, ended up costing me thirty two hundred fitted. But all brand new, however seen second hand units around for heaps less.
Mark Ribbans
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Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 04:56 pm, by:  Mark Ribbans (V8gtsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK well i've now been told my compressor is stuffed. The workshop i took it too said they bypassed the sensor override so the A/C compressor tries to spin (whereas the blinking light indicated it was not being attempted i assume) and they said that black smoke started coming out from the engine bay and that my compressor is stuffed. So I'm wondering whether it was actually stuffed before or whether they have now totally stuffed it up.

Anyway is it possible to have the existing compressor reconditioned or am i am for mega bucks for a new one?

Just to rub salt in on top of the fact that summer is here, my passengers window regulator
died yesterday so i can't even open that window..
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 06:52 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The very purpose of the sensor is to not allow the compressor to spin if there is a problem.

What they did is a bit like putting a nail in the fuse box because the fuse keeps popping, and then wondering why the house burnt down.

Black smoke though, could be the belt slipping on the A/C pulley if the compressor is jammed?
Ashley Leach
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Thursday, November 23, 2006 - 10:36 pm, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

Wow, so similar to mine, I've posted all the info for the new one here
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/31680/114951.html?1164283146#MB

Where did you take it because I'll avoid them.
Harry Lemmens
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Friday, November 24, 2006 - 08:54 am, by:  Harry Lemmens (Wombat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

About half the time, the compressor is not siezed, but the sensor has died ...

But, even so, if you turn off, and then on the air conditioner, it will run for a few seconds (Or try to at least!) before it decides that the compressor might be jammed
Ashley Leach
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Friday, November 24, 2006 - 09:18 am, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You don't want to be running for too long it if the compressor has seized though. It will explode and throw metal shards into the AC system, essentially skrewing it for life.
Mark Ribbans
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Friday, November 24, 2006 - 10:31 am, by:  Mark Ribbans (V8gtsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As soon as the light started blinking i killed the A/C. Aside from whatever the mechanic has done it hasn't been run much at all..

Peter i think you're right about the smoke being the belt slipping.

The compressor is totally seized though, if i engage it while idling the engine stalls..
Harry Lemmens
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Friday, November 24, 2006 - 01:11 pm, by:  Harry Lemmens (Wombat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Either disconnect the plug near the compressor, or pull out the Relay in the Box under the bonnet if you dont want it to run.

However, ... it wont run unless you have either switched it on at the A/C switch, or pressed the Auto button. Then it will remember that it was on the next time you try to start the car.
Ashley Leach
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Friday, November 24, 2006 - 01:55 pm, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And you really want to avoid that. Take out the relay to be safe until you can find a replacement. That way you can't turn it on but you should still be able to run the fan. You might get an error code though...

My new compressor has arrived, shiny and in the box. Did you figure out where you are going to take it?
Mark Ribbans
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Thursday, January 04, 2007 - 08:46 pm, by:  Mark Ribbans (V8gtsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys, jsut reviving this thread since my car is currently in bits so i thought i'd have another look at my stuffed compressor. Before i get a brand new compressor i thought i'd run this past you first.

This article on Lextreme
http://www.lextreme.com/ac.html

Seems to indicate that the magnetic clutch could be all that's wrong with it and has instructions on how to replace the clutch too?

Given that my radiator is currently removed, pulling the compressor out now is relatively easy.

Ashley out of interest, roughly how much is a shiny new compressor?
Brian Timms
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Friday, January 05, 2007 - 08:55 am, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should have heard the Nissan A/C when I got it re-connected the other day, had a broken belt, and considering I never used it, I let it go for the 2 yrs I have owned the car.

Anyway, selling the car to get a Soarer, and the guy wants the A/C working, so I get a new belt, fire it up, and all of a sudden it sounds like the bottom end of the engine is falling out, rattling so loud you would think the engine has thrown a bearing, and probably a piston as well.

Turn the A/C off, and everything goes nicely again.

Time to get a new compressor and re-gas.

Thing that annoys me is the air is COLD when on, just bloody noisey and not acceptable.

B.
Daniel Lee
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Friday, January 05, 2007 - 10:36 am, by:  Daniel Lee (Son_gokou) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mark,

A new new compressor will be around $900!!
Ashley Leach
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Friday, January 05, 2007 - 11:54 pm, by:  Ashley Leach (Ashlar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cost me $875... to be almost exact... Plus postage. Damn it's worth it with the hot weather we are getting though. Plus it's all new and I don't have to worry about it again for a LONG time. IMO if you can get one and can spare the cash, well worth it.
Mark Ribbans
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Friday, February 16, 2007 - 02:48 pm, by:  Mark Ribbans (V8gtsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just to complete this thread; only because I did my cam belt, my radiator and rear disks all at about the same time I decided to go the cheap route to get my A/C going again..

I know this isn't the recommended thing to do in such a situation but when the alternative is no A/C at all, the choice is obvious.

This assumes you are willing to get dirty and pull the compressor off and install it yourself, and that your old compressor is totally stuffed.

So, here is the cheaper (2nd hand) alternative - which may or may not cost you more in the long term. Please don't bitch about this not being the best thing to do, i know this but figured if anyone else has limited cash found themselves in the same position this might help.

1. Get the old gas removed from your system (so you can remove the compressor). Please think of the environment, the R12 gas eats ozone for lunch. Cost is approx $50 from mobile A/C guy, maybe less if you go to them rather than them coming out to you.

2. With the gas removed you can safely remove the old compressor.

3. Ring around at wreckers to get prices for 2nd hand units. I found that prices vary a lot. I got mine for $295 with 3 month warranty. Take your old compressor with you to the wrecker (they'll probably request this anyway) so you get the right one.

4. Once you get your replacement compressor, physically install it. You can pay for someone to do this obviously, but if you want to save maximum cash do it yourself. Hook it up to the serpentine belt but leave the hoses and wiring looms detached so the clutch won't try and engage if you accidentally turn it on, if the old compressor seized it may have spread metal filings throughout the system which you don't want in the new system.

5. Call your A/C guy. He will install a new drier, evacuate the system, remove all the water/air/crap from the system, lubricate the compressor, add a dye to the gas (so you can check for leaks with UV light later) and regas with ozone friendly R34a gas. This may not be 100% correct, (i am no A/C mechanic) but i think this is what he did with mine. - This whole process takes around an hour or so and cost me $160 - i got mates rate, so might cost you a little more (or less if you are better mates).

So, all up it cost me:

$50 - to remove old gas
$295 - for 2nd hand compressor
$160 - new drier, lubricate, regas etc..

So around $500 all up, compared to prob $1500+ if you went with a new compressor..
Richie Fish
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Friday, March 07, 2008 - 02:26 pm, by:  Richie Fish (Imp) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

"OK well i've now been told my compressor is stuffed. The workshop i took it too said they bypassed the sensor override so the A/C compressor tries to spin (whereas the blinking light indicated it was not being attempted i assume)"

how do i override the pressure sensor mine is broken, cold air starts too come out the vent then then after 5 seconds the thing thinks its got a compressor lock and shuts it down......i want too override this and cannot find any information on how too do this
Peter Nitschke
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Friday, March 07, 2008 - 04:50 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The sensor is for low gas pressure. Maybe the workshop got it wrong?
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Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 12:33 pm, by:  Richie Fish (Imp) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

see the thing is the ac works awesome for about 3 seconds then it turns off and the light blinks, so im guessing its a sensor fault.
now i read that a blinking light means its a compressor lock which isnt true because the aircon works perfectly(for 3 seconds)
i want too bypass that sensor, does anyone know how?
Luke Gomer
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Sunday, March 09, 2008 - 07:54 pm, by:  Luke Gomer (Luke) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Diag Code 22, Compressor Lock Sensor

Trouble area:
Compressor
Compressor Drive Belt
Compressor Lock Sensor
Harness/Connector
A/C Control Assembly
Nathan Stringer
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Saturday, November 15, 2008 - 05:02 pm, by:  Nathan Stringer (Stringer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bringing this thread back to life..

Having the same problem now.

Does anyone know how to bypass this sensor to check the system?

Thanks
Mark Ribbans
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