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Mark Ribbans
TryHard
SA
UZZ-031 V8, 1972 Mazda RX2 Coupe, TE Gemmy

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Monday, November 17, 2008 - 12:24 pm, by:  Mark Ribbans (V8gtsoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would not recommend doing this (by passing the sensor) as it will most likely result in smoke coming from your compressor which will in turn put little metal filings all through you A/C system.
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Monday, November 17, 2008 - 02:01 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And the smoke is really hard to put back in.
Nathan Stringer
Tinkerer
SA
UZZ31 V8

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Monday, November 17, 2008 - 05:15 pm, by:  Nathan Stringer (Stringer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In my situation, I think it's either the clutch or the sensor that is failing, so isolating the sensor would help to find the problem
Harry Lemmens
TryHard
Victoria
V8

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Monday, January 12, 2009 - 01:48 pm, by:  Harry Lemmens (Wombat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay ... Been a few years now that my A/C light has been flashing. In my case, it was definitely a stuffed "Lock-up" sensor in the pump. Since the pump was not seized, it was a real pain.(I used a diagnostic mode to run the A/C on hot days!)

I finally cooked up a three transistor generator that generates a fake signal to trick the A/C electronics. This works a treat.

Being a tight arse, Since the gas has finally leaked out of the system (well not quite all out, there was still some gas in there as an audible hiss was evident when I pressed one of the valves) I recharged the system with LPG. This works so well I am somewhat surprised as the A/C was never as good with R134 as it is now with common LPG. (from a 8.5Kg barbecue gas bottle)

The amount of gas used from the bottle was trivial. I guess that perhaps 300 grams of gas all up went into the system ... lets say less than a dollars worth of gas! It took about 20 minutes, although I was being fairly careful. Too much pressure from the LPG bottle would blow my jury rigged connector out of the low pressure port of the A/C. (Low pressure port is the one near the compressor, in my case it was blue, and clearly had a large L printed on the cap.) I would post how to do this, but I can see people blowing themselves up, and then blaming me ...


I will post a schematic of the 3 transistor generator for people having similar problems. (Not just for Soarers either ...)
Matt Petersen
TryHard
NA
V8

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Monday, January 12, 2009 - 02:30 pm, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was your's an original R12 that was converted to R134A?

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Harry Lemmens
TryHard
Victoria
V8

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Monday, January 12, 2009 - 03:30 pm, by:  Harry Lemmens (Wombat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes ... most were, as it has been a requirement for a very long time now.

However, a lot of conversions were very crudely done, with "back yarders" going around, venting the R12 and replacing with R134, but without replacing the original R12 oil. I suspect this is why so many compressors ended up making a lot of noise.

My compressor was so noisy when I initially got the car (back in 2001) that I had someone top up the system with the correct oil for R134.
Curiously, with LPG as the refrigerant, I swear the compressor is now much quieter than it was ...
Harry Lemmens
TryHard
Victoria
V8

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Sunday, January 18, 2009 - 11:17 am, by:  Harry Lemmens (Wombat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here are the schematics ...
While I actually built version 1, version two is the one I would have built had I the relevant parts on hand. If I were to purchase the parts, version two is the one I would make. Mainly since it is much easier to build in "dead bug" form. (dead bug, as it resembles dead bugs stuck in place.)

application/octetstreamVersion one of the generator
Protel Ac Lock Sensor Gen V1.pdf (42.1 k)

application/octetstreamVersion two of the generator
Protel Ac Lock Sensor Gen V2.pdf (58.5 k)


Remeber to seal the "generator" somehow ... I wraped mine in insulation tape.
Richard Baird
TryHard
Perth, WA
V-Sex

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Wednesday, January 21, 2009 - 08:02 pm, by:  Richard Baird (Richo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes bugger all those fancy ozone friendly gases...
Propane is the best for cooling hands down...

Easy to obtain.......and cheap...!!
Adrian Bygrave
Newbie
South Australia
Soarer V8

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Thursday, January 02, 2020 - 05:09 pm, by:  Adrian Bygrave  (Whitezed) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi there, just wondering where the output wire connects to?
The diagram doesn’t show it connected to anything?
Cheers & Thanks!

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