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Brett Moloney
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Saturday, March 17, 2007 - 05:02 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As per heading. I have done a search with no luck. Are the EMV and Non EMV cars equipped with a different air con computer?. This is the one under the dash to the left of the steering column.
Tim Pike
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Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 12:16 am, by:  Tim Pike (Keydecoder) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hopefully someone else can tell you for certain, but looking at the wiring diagrams, EMV and Non-EMV air con computers are different. This is because the EMV Air-Con computer is wired into the vehicle LAN which only the EMV type cars have (ie. thats how you control the aircon from the touch screen).

Also it looks like the plugs might be different too.

I can't say for certain though since I'm only looking at the wiring diagrams and have never actually seen both a EMV and Non-EMV aircon computer. But I'd be pretty certain that they would not be compatible due to the unit begin connected to the EMV via the vehicle LAN which only the EMV cars have.
Brett Moloney
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Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 09:06 am, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Tim, I've also been looking at the diagrams and although the plugs seem different they are basically all the same colours and seem to be going to the same controls. I was hoping someone may have a part number of each.
Damian Ware
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Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 09:10 am, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Brett, I have a spare EMV air con computer I will get you the part number off it today.
Brett Moloney
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Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 10:10 am, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What I cannot find in the wiring diagrams are the fan speed controls, the off control, the mode controls - basically all the controls on the non emv cars that control air con and climate controls.
Don Bagnall
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Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 10:20 am, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've been through the EPC Brett, but don't have anything conclusive to tell you.

Once Damian puts up his part number I'll have a more thorough search in the catalogue for you
Damian Ware
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Sunday, March 18, 2007 - 12:38 pm, by:  Damian Ware (Frozenpod) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry mate my mistake I no longer have one. If I come across another one soon, I will let you know.
Brett Moloney
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Monday, March 19, 2007 - 01:18 am, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don part number is 88650 but I think this is the non emv so I need to know if the emv has the same air con computer (to the left of steering wheel near console)
Don Bagnall
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Monday, March 19, 2007 - 05:38 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Brett, but I'd need the full number, as in all 10 digits.

And I can't see anything that LOOKS right in the EPC.

Darryn Dewar
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Monday, March 19, 2007 - 06:11 pm, by:  Darryn Dewar (Mrphreak) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's listed as a AMPLIFIER ASSY, COOLER STABILIZER Don. If it's the part I'm thinking of
Don Bagnall
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Monday, March 19, 2007 - 07:05 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, I saw that Darryn. Wasn't sure if that's what Brett's looking for, but I'll check it out
Don Bagnall
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Monday, March 19, 2007 - 07:13 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, IF that's the part, then it's NOT EMV specific, but IS year specific.

Also Brett, the number you gave matches up with the first part of the complete part number


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Neil Griffiths
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Monday, March 19, 2007 - 08:01 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes they are different..

EMV is next to drivers left foot rest, Whitey/Yelloish coloured box behind the Mirror ECU

Non EMV is in the AC headunit ( Like the headunit you just purchased Brett )
Don Bagnall
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Monday, March 19, 2007 - 08:18 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Buggar!
Brett Moloney
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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 08:34 am, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are all champions. Thanks for the responses gentlemen (I use that term extremely loosely ). That certainly clears up a bit Neil. I was going over all the different wiring diagrams for emv and non emv and it just didn't gel.
Brett Moloney
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Tuesday, March 20, 2007 - 02:18 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Neil this will be another useless box I can throw out to lighten the weight. Already got the emv, stacker,amplifier, navigation, radio tuner, tv tuner removed.
Brett Moloney
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Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 04:18 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Finally after over 140 soldering joints and approximately 8 hours labour
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Paul Drane
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Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 10:30 pm, by:  Paul Drane (Paulwd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking good Brett


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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 07:09 am, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Excellant,
Your next quest should be to remove the Traction Control :-)
Brett Moloney
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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 09:11 am, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Remove the traction control! Very easy to do when it wasn't on the car to start with.
(My favourite smiley!)
I think I'm turning my 31 into a 30.
Neil Griffiths
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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 06:07 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well why ya still have the Trac button in the shifter panel !
Brett Moloney
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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 06:31 pm, by:  Brett Moloney (Lxsv8) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah. It is an aftermarket switch used for OD. Never had traction control at all. Wanted it to look like it belonged there.
Neil Griffiths
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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 06:48 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

WOW,,with my eyesite and that pic it looks factory mate..HAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHA

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