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Leo Croker
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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 07:30 am, by:  Leo Croker (Leonardomonkey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys

Not been around for awhile, my baby has been parked up for a couple of months, now i am getting her ready to go back on the road. But she has developed a bad problem, i am thinking its the heater core since under the passenger seat filled up with water but water was also pumping out of the intercooler, does this happen when the heater core goes?

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Leo
Leo Croker
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Wednesday, February 27, 2008 - 09:19 pm, by:  Leo Croker (Leonardomonkey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oh one other thing my air con has been dead since i bought the car, think it happened when a new rad was fitted. The fan never turned on for it, but now it does , am really confused
Mitchell Howard
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Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 10:32 am, by:  Mitchell Howard (Mitch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey I have the same problem and was wondering if a way to fix it would be to put radiator stop leak stuff through the cooling system? would that fix it even temporarily? Just an idea? Anyone??
Peter Nitschke
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Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 12:27 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Water from the intercooler? Not sure what you mean.

Water in the passengers footwell could also be from rain if the plastic liner inside the door isn't sealing properly.

Personally I wouldn't bother with any of the radiator fix solutions. It's hit and miss as to whether it will work, but it does add junk to the cooling system.

If you are sure it's the matrix, you have 2 options. Bypass the heater completely, or pull the dash out to get at it. Big job.

This problem underlines the importance of having the correct coolant in the system, and replacing it regularly every 2-3 years.
Leo Croker
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Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 09:11 pm, by:  Leo Croker (Leonardomonkey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys

I was working on the inside of the car when i noticed a warning light come up, so i turned off the car and was about to pop the hood when i noticed a lot of water coming out of the intecooler, and the same time water started filling under the passenger seat, i am guessing at this stage that it is the heater matrix, just because it would explain how the water got inside, i am guessing that it would come out the intercooler as well, put i could be miles off the mark, i don't think it was a leak since it has never leaked before. I am gong to do a lot of stuff to the inside so i don't really mind taking it all apart, just hope that that is the problem.
Kyle Wathen
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Friday, March 14, 2008 - 04:05 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The intercooler in no way is connected to the heater/coolant system though.

Are you talking about the radiator?
Leo Croker
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Friday, March 14, 2008 - 11:49 pm, by:  Leo Croker (Leonardomonkey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nope, it was pouring out of the intercooler, really is worrying me, i will be starting to take it apart on Sunday.

It really is strange
Gavin Smith
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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 09:51 am, by:  Gavin Smith (Gavs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Leo, is it (1) yucky brown water that smells of coolant, (2) yucky brown water that smells stale/stagnant (like a bad fart) or is it (3) pure coolant?

option 1 generally equalls bad times for you!

option 2 is when your aircon isn't draining properly and backing up in the system, then finding the point of least resistance and draining back into the footwell instead of onto the road, happened to my mum's commodore.

option 3, well, hope you have your pennies saved.

Do you have a 'cooler spray system set up, that you know of? Is it a water-to-air cooler that could be leaking? Not sure on turbo construction, or if soarer turbos are water cooled, but could it be leaking and blowing through into the intercooler?
Peter Nitschke
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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 12:44 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The intercooler is a closed system, how can anything be coming out of it?

Or you may have a leak in the radiator and fluid is spraying onto the intercooler and dripping off?
Leo Croker
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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 05:03 am, by:  Leo Croker (Leonardomonkey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the responses.

It is pure water no colour to it at all its completely clear.

I use a blue coolant mix for the rad, so i know its not coming from there, but i don't know where clear water would be coming from.

It is mad that it came out of both the inter-cooler and the foot well.

Anyone interested in a soarer for parts ;)
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 02:56 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Leo, this is all a bit confusing.

1) If the coolant is blue, then the leak should be blue too, as the heater uses the same coolant.

2) As mentioned, the turbo intercooler is a closed system which just handles air, so no way that coolant gets into it, let alone out of it again.

A common cause for the footwells getting wet, is the plastic lining inside the doors isn't sealing properly. Rain runs down into the doors and then into the car.

Water could drip from the A/C heat exchanger at the front of the car, simply condensation from air humidity.
Robert Petrovski
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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 08:18 pm, by:  Robert Petrovski (Robche) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had water leak from the sun roof down to the passenger footwell.
Leo Croker
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Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 04:07 am, by:  Leo Croker (Leonardomonkey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So is it possible since the car was standing for a long time, that water could condensate in the air system? We had some pretty wild weather where i live lots of rain snow etc really windy, so it could be a possibility that water got in from a leak.

Thanks again for all the help
Michael Keen
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Sunday, June 08, 2008 - 01:07 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

check the water drain on the bottom of the heater/ a/c system which drains in side the engine bay .. either way, you could do a heaterr matrix change in a day, but yeah.. i can do a heater core change for $400 as long as you have a new core to put straight in, problem is you have to de-gas your a/c system as you have to un bolt the pipes of the fire wall. so it will need to be re gassed, but it is a simple job cheers..
Leo Croker
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Friday, November 07, 2008 - 10:18 am, by:  Leo Croker (Leonardomonkey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Guys

I have only got around to try fixing the leak now ) mental busy last 6 months)

I removed the carpet and found an inch of water in the car.

It does not appear to be from the matrix, but from the bulkhead, any ideas, as i need it back on road in 3 days or i have to buy a new car
Matt Petersen
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Friday, November 07, 2008 - 11:03 am, by:  Matt Petersen (Mattmannz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The heater pipes come in through the bulkhead and attach to the matrix.
Michael O'Driscoll
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Friday, November 07, 2008 - 06:15 pm, by:  Michael O'Driscoll (Remickz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah when i fixed mine a few months back, as it leaked it looked like it was running down the back to the floor.
Spent about 400 all up for the core to be replaced along with some new hoses for the engine bay, from the block and from the tap.
Then a lot of my time was put in....
And i still have to go get the AC re-gassed, and work out what plug i missed which is stopping the centre front vents and the demisters to work.
Hahha, still dont know weather i would wanna pay someone to fix it or do it again myself.
2nd time around would only take half the time, i ended up on the emails to Neil Griffiths wondering where the damn bolt holes all were.

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