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Neil Mystery
Tinkerer Ontario Soarer TT
Posts: 19 Reg: 06-2008
| Would anyone have any diagrams on the soarers heating system? My heater is not working at all and I would like to diagnose it, but I have no documentation on the soarer. Please point me to to any diagrams or manuals on the heater system Thank you, from a very cold person in Canada |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 9996 Reg: 11-2004
| Hi Neil, it's probably the VSV valve and can be bypassed. Located here.
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Neil Mystery
Tinkerer Ontario Soarer TT
Posts: 20 Reg: 06-2008
| is it the same for TT and V8? would bypassing mean the heat will be on at all times? thanks, Neil |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 9998 Reg: 11-2004
| Yes and yes. Bypassing actually involves just changing the little vacuum tubes that activate it, so it could be easily reversed until it's replaced. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 9999 Reg: 11-2004
| Briefly, the temp control in the car activates the a servo allowing the vacuum to open the heater water valve. If the VSV motor dies, then nothing works. The bypass feeds the vacuum direct to the valve causing the hot water to flow all the time. |
Neil Mystery
Tinkerer Ontario Soarer TT
Posts: 21 Reg: 06-2008
| ah i See, so I need to run a line from before the turbos to the VSV valve. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10004 Reg: 11-2004
| To bypass the VSV, you should be able to pull the hose coming from the manifold off the VSV end at the bottom, then hook it to the top of the diaphragm dome instead of the short hose there now. |
Neil Mystery
Tinkerer Ontario Soarer TT
Posts: 22 Reg: 06-2008
| Thanks Peter, I know exactly how to diagnose my issues now. I will keep you posted. |
Neil Mystery
Tinkerer Ontario Soarer TT
Posts: 23 Reg: 06-2008
| I have bypassed the actuator so I know its either the VSV Valve of the electrical input to the VSV valve (the heat works). I wish there was a manual like the toyota supra repair manual for our cars. These things give a step by step procedure to diagnose and repair anything in the car. Anything like that available for the soarer? I want to know what voltages should be going to the switch or if the voltages are pulsed. Thanks, Neil |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10013 Reg: 11-2004
| It should be the same as for the Supra. Look for 12v in the female plug on the harness side. You can also replace it with a Camry VSV fairly cheaply, but you need to cut/solder the plug from the old one to the new one. |
John Street
TryHard NSW Soarer TT
Posts: 157 Reg: 08-2005
| Peter, I have a TT with the same problem, what model Camry VSV fits Soarers? Cheers |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10017 Reg: 11-2004
| Toyota part # 88690-32280. Though it may have changed as that is a couple of years old when it was around $70. |
Neil Mystery
Tinkerer Ontario Soarer TT
Posts: 24 Reg: 06-2008
| what year/trim camry is that from? In canada these part numbers do not work..I have no idea why.. |
John Street
TryHard NSW Soarer TT
Posts: 158 Reg: 08-2005
| Thanks Peter, I'll try Mr T |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10019 Reg: 11-2004
| Neil, this is where we may need the help of The Don. |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10020 Reg: 11-2004
| Perhaps if I mention sheep it may get his attention? |
Don Bagnall
Moderator New Zealand Mercedes Benz SLK230 Kompressor
Posts: 7083 Reg: 05-2005
| Hey ewe's fella's.........The only number I've got is the gen-u-wine Snoarer one, which is: 87240- 24030 and fits ALL JZZ30 & UZZ3# 1991 - 2000. I think the Camry one was a 93 - 95 4cyl model, but I'm not sure.
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Matthew Standage
TryHard w.a. jzz30 tt
Posts: 115 Reg: 04-2008
| I have just found out that the vsv valve can be fixed easily yourself all you need to do is remove it from the car (undo the vacuum lines the plug and undo the 7mm bolt holding it on the bracket).Then take the valve apart it has 8 small prongs two sets per side that need squeezing together with pliers carefully.Then you can pull the valve apart.They are really simple inside and only have a spring a piston /actuator rod thing and a small valve seat.Clean all of these with WD40 blow some air through the valve to clean out any gunk then put it all back together how you found it. Now your heater should now switch on and off like new.Mine now works perfectly and it didn' cost me a thing just half an hour on a sunday morning.(if anyone is wondering why i'm worrying about my heater in the middle of summer unlike all you guys in the east in the goldfields it has been pouring with rain and freezing all week isn't global warming great?) |
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer South Australia UZZ30 UZZ31
Posts: 10404 Reg: 11-2004
| Now how about doing it again and taking some pics along the way? |
Matthew Standage
TryHard w.a. jzz30 tt
Posts: 116 Reg: 04-2008
| no thanks i was going to but as i didn't know if it would work i didn't bother but the next person who tries it should definently take some shots it's really easy taking the vsv off the bracket is about the hardest part and at least people can save themselves $70 now |
Omar Dean
Tinkerer Victoria TT
Posts: 11 Reg: 07-2011
| i just did this using Matthew's guide and it did not work. I then wondered if the vacuum hoses going to and from the VSV were blocked. i pulled off the small hose going from the valve to the tap and replaced it with a new bit of hose and my heater works!!!! woohoo!!!!!!! |
Andy Losurdo
TryHard NSW v8 quad cam
Posts: 120 Reg: 02-2007
| ok not sure if this is in the right post but since i converted my uzz32 to manuel when air con is on the car idles at 600rpm n sounds like it wants to stall otherwise in nuetral idles at 700rpm how do i increse the rpm when the aircon is on any help please |