Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 05:33 pm, by: David Eberhart(Orphan)
Hey guys,
Well my compressor is gone and I have heard of people paying a few hundred to get it rebuilt, is this worth while or just going to make it last a bit longer. What about buying a used compressor and seeing how long it lasts etc. The price for a new unit is a bit exxy. Can you get a used unit tested to see if it has any leaks etc before you put it on?
From what i've been told the soarer compressors were designed to use the old gas and the new gas eats the seals, if so is there a updated seal kit or more worth getting a compressor out of a late model that would have had to comply with the new gas rules?
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 06:31 pm, by: Dave Hart(Davyboy)
It will depend on what's gone whether it'll cost a few hundred or thousand. If you can get a decent used one then you may find a back street place that will recharge with the old gas.
Tuesday, February 16, 2010 - 08:44 pm, by: Boris Siljanoski(Z2tt)
The new gas (R134a) and it's accompanying oil PAG, does not necessarily "eat" seals up. R12 Compressors have NBR Rubber seals, NBR Rubber compatibility with PAG/R134a oil is fine. But most Compressors built after 1994 use HNBR seals, which are more resistant to swelling than NBR ones. When you get the compressor rebuilt they will most likely use HNBR seals, you can ask.
You can get second hand ones for about $100, most likely will have leaky shaft seals from sitting in storage without use, some will some wont. If you want to take a gamble you can buy a second hand one. When looking for second hand compressors, it's best to get one that is as new as possible, and has been taken from a car with the least km's.
If you plan to sell the car within the next couple of months, a second hand one should do.
Try to find an A/C Compressor that has recently come off a driven car with the A/C regularly used, such as somebody who has crashed their car, or a car that has just begun to be wrecked.
When buying second hand compressors be sure to ask things like how long as the compressor been unused (shorter the better), did the car that the compressor was in have fairly long intervals before re gassing (longer the better). Also spin the clutch of the compressor, it should spin with resistance, but not too hard to spin and should not have any "hard" spots when spinning. Place your finger on the suction port (Larger port), and as soon as you begin spinning you should feel suction. Ask whether the compressor was very noisy when in the car. It's normal for older compressors to have a bit of a whine, but if it's stupidly loud the bearings are wearing out.
Some A/C Places can pressure test the compressor.
Since you have the V8, I'm pretty sure It uses the Denso 10PA20C Compressor, it will be $550 for a rebuild by Orion Compressors.
In the end, if you happen to pick up a second hand compressor that works for $100, and it happens to have leaky seals, it's about $200 to replace all seals. So you will spend about $300 vs $550 or so for a rebuild and have a compressor that works and wont leak the gas out quickly.
To maintain a healthy compressor when it is installed, have all the old oil flushed out of the system, get the system refilled with the correct amount of oil (150cc) and if using R134a with the correct gas charge (900g)
Also be sure that a new reciever/drier is fitted at the time of the compressor change.
Friday, February 19, 2010 - 05:09 pm, by: David Eberhart(Orphan)
Great post Boris, i'm sure that will help not only me but anyone in this situation. I wish this forum was a bit clearer and had a sticky section for links to good posts like this one rather than having to trawl around.
Friday, February 19, 2010 - 06:53 pm, by: David Eberhart(Orphan)
Is your Y.O.B. really 1991? Ha you don't see many sub 25 year olds that know much about anything let alone can produce a concise and informing post like above.
Saturday, November 06, 2010 - 07:59 pm, by: David Duffell(Duffsta)
That's what I was wondering seeing as the compressor number seems to be the same. When you search the compressor number 10PA17C it gives you a lot of results for compressors for different cars. I'm wondering if they are all the same and just advertised that way so people know they fit their car. If these do fit our cars I'd get one as mine is stuffed.
Thursday, November 11, 2010 - 01:41 pm, by: Boris Siljanoski(Z2tt)
You could try get in contact with them, and ask for measurements between the bolt holes and a picture of the interface plate (Where the refrigerant hoses bolt onto the compressor), and also the amount of grooves on the pulley so it matches your belt
i purchase a reconditioned air con compressor from them previously, has warranty and if there any defects on the parts and you change it, let them know and they will refund you the cost to change that part.
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