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Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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Tuesday, May 20, 2014 - 02:21 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How goes it now Mark, back on the road yet?
Mark Donovan
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Wednesday, May 21, 2014 - 08:52 am, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No progress since my last post as I've been out of action with a cold/throat infection. Hope to get out to the car at the weekend.

Won't be back on the road for a long time! Matrix and other parts to be replaced, evaporator to be pressure tested, new foam tape to be applied throughout the assembly and dash, everything to go back in & be re-fitted, new coolant added, air-con system re-gassed, crossing fingers that nothing leaks..! Then I have some seat mounts to fabricate for new seats, then have new diff fitted, new swaybar fitted, front lights out for cleaning and re-fitting of new HID system....
Matthew Sharpe
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JZZ31

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Sunday, June 01, 2014 - 04:53 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've just sold my Soarer... to Mike Beck! I've bought a Falcon G6E Turbo to replace it. Very sad to see it go after 9 years, but Mike will look after it.
Mark Donovan
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Sunday, June 01, 2014 - 07:09 am, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've heard good things about the G6E. Nice choice.
Matthew Sharpe
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JZZ31

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Tuesday, June 03, 2014 - 01:15 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Seems pretty good so far. Scarily fast compared to the Soarer.
Boris Siljanoski
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LS400 + Soarer.

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Thursday, June 19, 2014 - 09:13 pm, by:  Boris Siljanoski (Z2tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Your not wrong about that Matthew. Put a F6 Cooler, Tune and Injectors and it will be so much better, there is so much factory power reduction stuff on the tune that holds back the power delivery.
Mark Donovan
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Auckland
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Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 05:33 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Air con assembly removed today. Now to clean it up, replace heater core.
Mark Donovan
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Auckland
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Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 06:48 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


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Blake Gloyn
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manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT

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Thursday, July 03, 2014 - 07:51 pm, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, what a job! Mark, can you please weigh that big unit (sitting on the ute tailgate)for me please? and the heater core?
Mark Donovan
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Auckland
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Friday, July 04, 2014 - 12:27 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah will do. Will let you know this evening. I'll be hanging it off one of those travel bag scales, so it won't be precise.

fwiw, part number for UZZ31 heater core = 87107-24030

http://www.toyodiy.com/parts/p_J_199105_TOYOTA_SOARER_UZZ31-ACPZK_8714.html?hl=87107A
Mark Donovan
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Auckland
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Friday, July 04, 2014 - 12:33 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

partsbase.org seems to be a good alternative to toyodiy.com now they no longer have the diagrams:

http://www.partsbase.org/toyota/soarer-uzz31-acpzk-4-0l-32-valve-dohc-efi-atm-1991-2000-jp-4-heating -air-conditioning-cooler-unit/#p-toyota-8710724030
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
G6E Turbo

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Monday, July 07, 2014 - 01:27 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now the fun of putting it all back together!
Allan Langford
Goo Roo
Vic
UZZ31

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Monday, July 07, 2014 - 02:19 pm, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

make sure you put new foam, felt tape and removable loctite on all bolts or you will have a heap of dash rattles.
Mark Donovan
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Auckland
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Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 09:16 am, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Allan - why the Loctite on the bolts? So long as they are tight and secure, I thought they'd be fine ?
Allan Langford
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Vic
UZZ31

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Wednesday, July 09, 2014 - 11:35 am, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

dash's / HVAC are big parts subject to a lot of temperature changes so you get lots of shrinking and expanding that will work things lose and then rattle
Mark Donovan
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Thursday, July 10, 2014 - 01:00 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, thanks, good advice.

For those that are interested:

heater core 1.5kg
air con assembly: 7.5kg (as shown above, without heater core, evaporator, misc. servos and misc. plastic parts. fitted)

Will weigh evaporator this weekend.
Mark Donovan
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Sunday, July 13, 2014 - 07:04 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Evaporator : 2.5kg
Mark Donovan
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Auckland
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Monday, July 14, 2014 - 08:42 am, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

misc servos attached to assembly:

power steering CPU, computer cooling fan cpu

total: 300g
Mark Donovan
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Thursday, July 31, 2014 - 03:53 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1 x aircon assembly. Made from two parts, upper half, lower half. Lots of screws, lots of plastic trim to be careful with, and lots and lots of dust.

You can see I've munted the main air vent panel in the middle. I will be replacing nearly all the vent panels as their foam all seem to be soaked in coolant


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Mark Donovan
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Saturday, August 09, 2014 - 02:18 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK, so I have bought a 2nd hand, complete air-con assembly from a wreckers, out of a UZZ31 Soarer (non-EMV).

It's got all the bits - heater core, evaporator etc. and it's in better condition than my own. I'm pretty happy.

On inspection it appears to be identical to mine, however I have noticed a difference in the main fan area:

Old unit:


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Old unit, from below:


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New unit (photo taken through grille, haven't opened it up yet):


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New unit, from below


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I think what I am looking at in the old unit is the blower motor controller, and it's equivalent in the newer unit. The old unit doesn't have a part number, but as noted, the newer part number is 87165-14010

My question is, will this cause problems when I go to connect everything back up?

(I have asked the wrecker for the year of the car, or the VIN)
Mark Donovan
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Saturday, August 09, 2014 - 03:13 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK have removed top half of assembly and here's a better photo of fan blower in new unit:


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I've compared the plugs and the plugs into the old unit will not fit into the new one.

Looks like I will have to transplant everything into the old air con assembly shell.
Mark Donovan
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Sunday, August 10, 2014 - 06:42 pm, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've also confirmed that the wiring harness that drapes over and down the front of the aircon assembly is different between EMV and non-EMV UZZ31 Soarers...

My EMV harness has extra orange coloured plugs at both ends which I am 99% sure caters to some particular requirement of the EMV.

Im almost positive the UZZ31 (non-EMV) at the wreckers was also a '91, so it emphasises the need to ideally get a replacement air con assembly from an identical year/model Soarer. I know there are also design changes that came later to the climate control units, around '95 from what I've read, that further complicates issues.
Robert Day
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victoria
v8 & TT

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Sunday, August 10, 2014 - 08:28 pm, by:  Robert Day (Lexsmaz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Mark,

I don't know about EMV versus non EMV but that is a later model heater fan unit the one you have circled & if it does all plug in which I don't think it will the fan speeds will be up the duff, can you swap over the resistor block you have circled, its not going to fit perfectly but you need to use all the old bits ..
Mark Donovan
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Monday, August 11, 2014 - 06:13 am, by:  Mark Donovan (Mark_donovan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Robert - thanks for the suggestion, but I can't/won't swap the resistor block - doing so would entail also having to use the new wiring harness without the correct plugs: not only is it missing the orange plugs for the EMV, it also doesn't have what I think is a white, oblong temperature probe/block which inserts through the front of the assembly, into the chamber which houses the evaporator.

Even if I did succeed in cobbling the new resistor block into my set up somehow, I suspect I'd get all sorts of errors and problems later on when it's all re-installed & I switch everything back on :-) Like you said, fan speeds will probably be all over the place, just like what I've read here in this forum.

Also, the hole in the fan area where the resistor block pokes through in the newer aircon assembly is a smaller size and shape. I'm not going to attempt to cut it to size to accommodate the older model when the old blower model is working fine.

No big loss really - I have got replacement vent gates and a replacement heater core which is all I needed. I will just transplant those into my old assembly. Perhaps 15 minutes work.

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