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Cihan Aday
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Monday, October 23, 2006 - 01:08 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A few articles I found interesting regarding brake fluid;

http://www.stealth316.com/2-brakefluid.htm
http://www.volvoclub.org.uk/faq/BrakeFluidComparison.html
http://www.afcoracing.com/tech_pages/fluid.shtml

They conclude that DOT 5 fluids are silicon based, and are not interchangeable with DOT 3, 4 or 5.1 type fluids. We should'nt be using DOT 5 fluids in our Soarers. DOT 5.1 is glycol based and 100% synthetic fluid, it is fully compatible with our braking systems. DOT 5 fluids however are silicon based, and do not absorb water. Moisture buildup in the braking system can lead to hydrolock and ultimately brake failure. DOT 3, 4 and 5.1 fluids absorb moisture and posses anti corrosion properties to offset the possibility of brake system corrosion under long term use of such brake fluid.

Advantages of Super DOT 4 and DOT 5.1 glycol based fluids include; higher dry and wet boiling points and sharper pedal feel due to lower viscosity rating at normal operating and higher than normal operating temperatures.

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I've been using Castrol Response (Super DOT4) fluid with good results. I replaced clean DOT 3 fluid with the Castrol stuff and noticed the pedal was softer. Only downside is that it needs a flush after 12 months, i can see some discoloration and pedal feel has dropped significantly.
Mike Thomas
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Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:13 pm, by:  Mike Thomas (Petcanizzle) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

interesting... so, a brake flush with DOT 5.1 in a soarer would be good, but be prepared to do a second flush within a year? (due to contamination from remaining non synthetic dot3/4 fluid?)
Matthew Sharpe
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Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 01:40 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I use Castrol Response too - it seems to be good stuff. I flush every year anyway so I've never noticed it deteriorate.
Miles Baker
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Tuesday, September 25, 2007 - 02:26 pm, by:  Miles Baker (Milesb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Cihan Aday wrote on Monday, October 23, 2006 - 01:08 pm:

Moisture buildup in the braking system can lead to hydrolock and ultimately brake failure


I would more think it would lead to the opposite.. bubbles of water would turn to a compressible gas when heated making the brakes squishy. They would also rust from the inside out.

Hey that reminds me, I have a couple of spare brand new Mityvac pumps I have no use for if anyone is interested.

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