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Trevor Marsh
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Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 12:40 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I really don't know if this is the right place for this post but having just read a thread where someone called Alistair said that he'd just changed his (user) name, I replied, not realising the thread was closed.

However I'll now post what I'd written here in case someone finds it interesting;

Alistair- You're right about accidentally building up a profile on yourself.

I was bored a few months ago so googled my own name, just out of interest.

I was AMAZED at how many things came up about me. Things I've written in the past on Soarer Central (under a different name too), newspaper articles that I've been involved with (no, nothing I did wrong) other online forums regarding some of my other hobbies and even one or two things with my full name and telephone number on!

So I too, changed my details when I re-joined Soarer Central and will do so with any other site I join in the future. It sounds crazy but I now realise (too late) that it's so easy to build up a history of things we become involved in online.
Michael Sinay
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Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 01:21 pm, by:  Michael Sinay (Mikey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I noticed the same, seems soarer central is the main culprit :-).
Can we change our names on here easily?
Joshua Rao
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Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 03:36 pm, by:  Joshua Rao (Soaren1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I agree. I would like too. Had crazy stalkers say, so you were at x and y last night. Arrrr
Dan McColl
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Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 10:26 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I see no real need to hide behind an alias unless you have something to hide.

We have enough problems with sellers and whatnot here without people running around with false names and hiding behind an alias.
Trevor Marsh
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soarer tt

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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 10:57 am, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

For me, Dan, finding there are still posts 'out there' that I wrote on Soarer Central about 7 years ago, where I included details of my life (like the town I lived in, what I planned to do over the next few weeks etc) without realising that it could be read by anyone just by googling my Christian name and Surname and having gone through an extremely nasty divorce, I'm at the stage NOW where I want to be able to post threads on S Central without any of my ex's side being able to know what I'm now doing.

That may sound paranoid but all I can say is, if you or others had been through what I and many other poor blokes have been through, they'd understand.

Speaking personally, I was once a firm believer in the 'if you've got nothing to hide, why worry?' way of thinking but not any more. Now I guard my privacy extremely jealously.

Again, personally speaking, I'm not saying S Central is particularly bad at this because as I said earlier, many other sites are worse.

Just for instance, I once googled a female friend's name 9not a common name but there again, not a particularly unusual name either) and read that she and a few female friends were going to go on a 'moonlight fun run'. It came from a newspaper report in her local newspaper. The newspaper has done nothing wrong but when I told the friend that I'd heard about her run from the other side of the world, she was amazed.

I'm just saying, be very careful guys. It's too easy to forget what you write can be read anywhere by anyone.
Matthew Sharpe
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JZZ31

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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 12:58 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm kinda lucky that there is a famous author with the same name as me I guess.
Justin Hughes
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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 02:19 pm, by:  Justin Hughes (Juzza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had some arsehole from a credit collection company ring me up one day who started quoting all the mods
that I had on my car (listed on this site) and then suggested I sell my car in parts to raise the money I owed them

I didn't respond well to that I can tell you

scary though
Michael Sinay
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TT

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Friday, June 15, 2012 - 09:39 pm, by:  Michael Sinay (Mikey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah it doesn't seem right that people who aren't members of SC are able to view our profiles. Maybe that at least should be changed and restricted.

I had a girl who I was chatting too off a dating site start asking me about my soarer, I was like WTF!!! How do you even know anything about me, then I googled my name...
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 11:37 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So you proved that Soarers are chick magnets? :-)
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 11:40 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But seriously, I understand where you guys are coming from, the world is changing out there unfortunately.

The way this software works, is such that even changing your name now won't affect all the existing posts.

As Dan mentioned above too, only having an alias showing makes trusting a whole lot harder.
Dan McColl
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Saturday, June 16, 2012 - 01:01 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Peter, Is is possible to change my nickname/user name on the forum??
Allan Langford
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Sunday, June 17, 2012 - 09:08 pm, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

you can restrict access to the site to members only and migrate to some different software?
Alistair David
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Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 10:54 am, by:  Alistair David (Aldmo87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Dan McColl wrote on Thursday, June 14, 2012 - 10:26 pm:

I see no real need to hide behind an alias unless you have something to hide.

We have enough problems with sellers and whatnot here without people running around with false names and hiding behind an alias.




I do get where your coming from Dan, and I have nothing to hide from other members on this site. It's more the third parties that are actively looking for information on you.

There are definately companies whose sole existance is to gather information on people via various channels and then sell that information to whoever is willing to pay.

Don't be surprised if your email ends up on Autobarn's emailing list.
Allan Langford
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Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 11:52 am, by:  Allan Langford (Allan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dan, you of all people should be concerned about this as a "company director" your public image can effect your business as much as yourself, imagine the storm if you had a car accident and then someone googles your name, self admitted hoon? not only would the courts have your ass if your company has share holders they would very quickly want to distance themselves from you!
Trevor Marsh
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Friday, June 22, 2012 - 07:39 pm, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Allan. That's absolutely bang on.

I was amazed when I was in court (property settlement following my divorce) that my ex's lawyer actually read out things I'd written on facebook including a photograph of me with a female friend that was used to make me look like a scumbag, and also several comments I'd made tongue in cheek on Soarer Central and other sites. ALL were used against me.

Sorry guys but the old 'if you have nothing to hide' argument just doesn't work anymore.
Peter Nitschke
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Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 03:02 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Alistair David wrote on Thursday, June 21, 2012 - 10:54 am:

Don't be surprised if your email ends up on Autobarn's emailing list


Except that your email address isn't available anywhere unless you send a PM which then goes direct to the recipient.
Dan McColl
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Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 07:16 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm already on autobarns email list, as well as supercheap and repco and bursons, so no real issue there.

I don't know about 'self admitted hoon' though I would probably like to change my user name these days with the nonsense that sensationalist media entertainment programs spew forth, but alas, I have been using that name now for probably 15 years, so was well before the 'hoon' bandwagon started up.

If someone want's to distance themselves from me because of a user name on a forum then I pity their sad life.

As for the car accident thing, if they can prove it was my fault then so be it, if not then be prepared for slander charges to be thrown around if they wish to travel that path.

Each to their own, but I have nothing to hide, I'm not running away from sadistic ex's and I don't really mind if people know who I am and know that their dealing with a real person, not someone hiding behind a fake made up name.
Dan McColl
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Sunday, June 24, 2012 - 07:30 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And one more thought. Anything written on an internet forum is heresay and would be inadmissable in a courtroom situation. Your lawyer must have been pretty useless to have let that get through.

I shot JFK.
I bombed the twin towers.
I instigated the holocaust.
I put the drugs in Schapelles bag.

Just because it's on the internet doesn't make it true, or, Don't believe everything you read on the internet.
Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, June 25, 2012 - 06:42 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd always thought forums posts are here-say and unless you agree to it (i.e, state that you agree and admit that it was you who wrote it) cannot be used in any official court proceedings - at least not under NZ law. Not that I'm a lawyer or anything, but I'd just assume it would be the same as most non-legal written documents - burden of proof is on the persons wanting to use it against you, and you don't have to say anything about it if you don't want to.
Trevor Marsh
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Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 10:20 am, by:  Trevor Marsh (Tma7) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dan and Matthew.

I had no intentions on going into my situation any further as obviously it's private but also extremely boring. However, your seemingly 'informed' statements above, whilst they may be true in fact, give the illusion that everything in law is crystal clear and that as long as we've not actually broken the law or done something wrong, we don't need to worry.

While I'm not arguing against you, I feel I must say a bit more to enlighten any readers of this thread into what CAN (and in my case, DID) happen.

As far as I am concerned ALL lawyers are a waste of time. Yes my lawyer did allow stuff to be quoted in court, as did the barrister who was charging me $1000 an hour (total cost that court day came to $6500 just for him) and all of this was for a property settlement. My total legal bill was $85,000 and my ex's was about the same.

There was a lot of money being fought over in that settlement (way over a million dollars) that was all my and my ex's incredibly hard earned money from 30 years of marriage, back breaking work (and a lot of 'going without' things).

This is where (just as you see in films) a lawyer who 'leaks' (for want of a better word) what appears to be 'dirt' on the other side's client can easily make that client look bad. In my case my ex was terminally ill and I was made out to be a callous b*stard who was off living the high life.

I was grilled for almost two hours in the dock (and yes, it was just like you see in films) and was only allowed to answer 'yes' or 'no' and there were many things thrown at me that couldn't be answered with a quick question (but still had to be).

Questions like "Is it true Mr M.... that in August of 2004 you threw your pet cat off your balcony in a fit of anger?"

I was forced to admit I had done this. What I was NOT allowed to follow up with to explain was that my cat (which was actually my wife's cat) had once again caught a bird and was in the process of killing it (as cats do) so in an effort to make my cat drop the bird, I dropped it off the balcony to the soft bark ONE METRE below the balcony. The cat DID drop the bird and I managed to retrieve the poor bird.

But because I was not allowed to explain fully, the judge was left with the impression that I was just a nasty piece of sh*t.

There were many other questions, asked in a manner, where her lawyer sneared as he asked them, as if he was so disgusted and appalled at what I had or hadn't done, that I was again. forced to answer yes or no that equally incriminated me.

And it is true that comments I made on facebook, Soarer Central, an aircraft modelling site and other sites I had forgotten I'd been on, were quoted, twisted and used against me.

What you guys say may be written in law. I simply don't know. But I may also have been of that belief ten years ago. But having been through the courts I can absolutely tell you, it's NOT the case.

And, by the way, the worst thing I've ever done is have ONE speeding ticket where I was doing 100 k's in a 80 k limit. Not good but not a hanging offence.

Finally, I have read lately that we can be 'served' legal papers (as in "sorry mate, you've been served and must now appear ..."etc etc) via our facebook or email address's and that this is legal in law.

I wish it was the way you guys say. All I can say is that in MY case (and, I'm sure in many others) it isn't so.


Once you've been through the legal mill, especially if you 'lost' (yeah, my ex got 80% and I got next to nothing once my lawyers were paid) it leaves you very cautious. This was my reason for starting this thread.

It was not my intention to bring all this crap out into the open. But sweeping statements like the above give a false sense of security. Don't take it personally Dan and Matthew. I just need to make the record straight.
Joshua Rao
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Thursday, June 28, 2012 - 04:12 pm, by:  Joshua Rao (Soaren1) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow that was enlightening. Thank you for informing us. I have heard of similar where Facebook has been used in court as a result I have never had one besides when people have made them of me.

So can we change like our name a little bit to avoid search engines? I'm on alot of forums yet sc seems to be the one that always comes up.
Matthew Sharpe
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Friday, June 29, 2012 - 08:41 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Absolutely Trevor, I have no experience in these things, just as I said "I'd always thought...", so definitely good information from someone who has been there and done that.
Dan McColl
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Friday, June 29, 2012 - 01:08 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2009/09/your-secrets-live-online-in-databases-of-ruin/
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, June 30, 2012 - 03:51 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So basically just treat people with respect here and don't be silly and you should be fine.

Which was part of the reason for using real names in the first place.

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