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Robert Hayden
Moderator
Victoria
1991 UZZ32, 1992 UZZ32, 1991 UZZ32 Supercharged, UCF11 Celsior 1990
Posts: 688
Reg: 07-2005
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A bit of information for those having trouble keeping a nice shine on your cars.
Over the years I have tried a whole swag of products on my cars and recently had a chance to put a bit of effort into my Celsior.
1st step, Give it a good wash and then chamois down to dry.
2nd step, Maguires paint cleaner. Applied by hand using a Maguires soft foam pad and removed with open weave cheesecloth polishing cloth or soft terry towel.
3rd step, Maguires clear coat prep and swirl remover. Applied and removed the same as above. Make sure the car is cool when you do this and expect to use some arm muscles. The product leaves a slightly greasy residue which takes a lot of effort to remove.
4th step, Maguires gold class polish. A great product which fills or removes most of those fine spidery marks left on the surface. Apply with Maguires soft foam applicator pad and remove with terry towel of microfibre cloth.
Then finally, a coating of Zymol Titanium wax.
The result, paint to die for.
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Robert Hayden
Moderator
Victoria
1991 UZZ32, 1992 UZZ32, 1991 UZZ32 Supercharged, UCF11 Celsior 1990
Posts: 690
Reg: 07-2005
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Anyone interested in the Zymol products, have a look at this.
http://www.zdoau.com/products/productlist.php?sid=3&cid=9
It's quite an informative site for those of us who are so inclined.
Not all of the dealers carry all of the stocks.
I use Dick Richey at Oven Baked to supply it as he has supported the members here for years and is a whiz on Soarer repairs and paint matching.
As Australia's ONLY factory authorized Lambo repairer, he has to keep the range of products.
Check out the Royale product at the end of the page. $16000 AUD for the two tubs, but refilled for life by Zymol.
Dick Richey can be contacted on 03 9870 0520 and will post the items to you as required.
You will need paint cleaner (Yummy, smells like chocolate), Zymol applicator pads and definitely, three micro fibre cloths to remove the glaze properly. |
Matthew Sharpe
DieHard
North Island
3.0 GT
Posts: 912
Reg: 10-2005
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Every time I spend half a day cleaning & polishing the car, I end up stuck behind some oil spewing turbo diesel in the rain, then park at work to have the car shat on by birds, showered with salt spray and covered with gunk from the nearby motorway. By the end of the 2nd day its looking just as bad as it did before I started.  |
Jason Kingsmill
DieHard
NSW
UZZ31 Soarer V8
Posts: 605
Reg: 07-2005
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That's why you wax it after polishing.
With a decent coat of wax, bird crap/tree sap/tar spots etc... just won't stick to the surface.
I generally spend a whole day/weekend doing mine every few months.
Once it's waxed, it only needs a rinse with water and it looks like you've just waxed it again.  |
Michael Marchant
Newbie
Victoria
Soarer UZZ32 V8
Posts: 4
Reg: 04-2006
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Nice work Rob, the Celsior came up trumps! Big improvement over how it looked the other day (and even then it looked good!).
I have had success with the Maguires Gold class polish you used (I have some kicking around somewhere, will have to dig it up) and we use Maguires Quik Detailer on the speakers in our showroom who's finish is actually automotive paint!
What street is Oven Baked Enamel Services on? I will pop down and grab some Zymol when I get a chance. |
Murray Lund
Tinkerer
NSW
V8
Posts: 67
Reg: 07-2005
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I used that new Meguiars NXT recently. It is very easy to apply and polish off and leaves a great shine and a very slick feeling. |
Michael Marchant
Newbie
Victoria
Soarer UZZ32 V8
Posts: 5
Reg: 04-2006
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Robert Hayden wrote on Thursday, May 11, 2006 - 03:21 pm:34 Molan Street, right around the corner for you!
Thanks Rob, I will pop in and see them at some stage. |
Aaron Mead
TryHard
NT
TT
Posts: 169
Reg: 03-2006
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I've had much success with Meguiars Tech Wax and the use of Clay Bar treatments.
On a car that looks like it needs a little TLC, the first thing I do is wash and dry the vehicle to ensure all the dirt is gone. A panel by panel job of spraying Wax and Grease remover to get rid of any left over waxes, polishes, 'glide coats' and of course, SILICONE (bloody silicone) is essential.
After wiping off as much of the Wax and Grease remover as possible, the car get a quick wash and dry. Time to treat the paint.
I use Meguiars Quik Clay detailer kit, although the clay is available in 7oz jars, but costs around 100bux.
The clay pics up all the little bits of crud that get embedded into the surface of the clear coat. A lubricant (Meguiars Quik Detail) is applied to the surface of panel, then the clay is rubbed back and forth over that area. Youll notice lots of little black bits of dirt appear on the clay. This is what washing and polishing miss. Once the whole car is clayed, the lubricant buffs off easy with a microfibre cloth. You can than assess the paint and decide wether it requires a full cutting procedure or a mild swirl remove. Meguiars 2.0, some ScratchX or AutoGlym Paint rejuvenator or whatever you choose to use can than be applied. The ScratchX is pretty good on getting rid of deeper scratches in the clear coat. I use 2.0 Swirl remover on mine.
Apply as per instructions or with your buffer if you've got experience in wet buffing.
My favourite sealant is the Meguiars Tech Wax. Its about as tough as they come, I've only had to use every six months throughout the year in Darwin, and that with twice a week washing. It goes on with a supplied applicator pad, and buffs off with Microfibre. It sure does deepen the color and enrich the clear coat, and after when used with the clay bar, the suraface of the paint is like glass, and so so slippery. Smoothest youll ever feel.
Like Rob says, its a lot of work but well worth the effort.
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Aaron Mead
TryHard
NT
TT
Posts: 170
Reg: 03-2006
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Jesus, is that the BEST LS400 you've ever seen? |
Paul Bernasconi
Tinkerer
wa
soarer tt
Posts: 74
Reg: 11-2005
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I use a Meguires paint cleaner followed by the Meguires NXT and am happy with the result. although it does need a run over with a clay bar I never could get the hang of this.
A tip for mags is caustic acid, thats the stuff they use for drain cleaner, diluted with water. spray it on the rim, give it a scrub and then WASH IT OFF as it is an acid, and if left on it will start to disolve the finish on the rim.
This is similar to what Meguires use in their rim cleaner product but instead of $15 it's $3 and for a container that will last you a lifetime. |
Stephen Howlett
TryHard
victoria
soarer/ 1992/tt auto & 1996 V8 & parts 4 sale
Posts: 232
Reg: 07-2005
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Well, its been 3 weeks now and i have been washing my work statesman every day with a harsh
truck wash, a dirty ol sponge, and a high pressure
blaster to rinse it.
i only zymoled the roof, bootlid and bonnet and you would think it was done yesterday
i also did my 2 soarers, and they look fantastic.
you gotta get onto this stuff !!
i will post up some pics over the weekend
and also, if you apply it like they say, you will use more than you should.
so use an applicator to apply it |
Aaron Mead
TryHard
NT
TT
Posts: 189
Reg: 03-2006
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*Easy clean Wheels Tip*
Once all the brake dust and grime is off the rims, keep them this way by giving em a coat of synthetic wax like Tech Wax. Next time they get dirty, just hose em off, the brake dust will wash off very easily. |
Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
I have LESS Soarers than Hayden :-(
Posts: 3599
Reg: 05-2005
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I do the same Aaron, cept I use Meguires Carnuba wax, which smells yummo when applying, at least all the Bees in the neighbourhood seem to like it  |
Clayton Webb
TryHard
South Australia
'31 V8
Posts: 288
Reg: 09-2005
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Aaron Mead wrote on Sunday, May 14, 2006 - 07:53 pm:i use Meguiars Quik Clay detailer kit, although the clay is available in 7oz jars, but costs around 100bux.
Do you do this after a polish? |
Aaron Mead
TryHard
NT
TT
Posts: 192
Reg: 03-2006
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You can, but if you're starting over, then do it after wax reomval. You use it also when theres a slpattering of bat •••• that didnt come out when you washed. It saves you using your nails or other to remove the turds, and gets rid of the bits that are 'in' the clear coat. Ifyou use it on a waxed area, you'll notice a yellow coating on the clay
*Clay bar tip* Break the bar into four pieces. It sucks when you drop the bar on the ground and get bits of dirt in it! Dropping the bar may also attract unwanted attention from escaped inmates. |
Khalid Sarwari
DieHard
Victoria
T
Posts: 655
Reg: 07-2005
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i just used the zymol under coat and the concoarse wax on my beast bloody good sh!t this stuff but expensive for sure...$400 later for the just the 2 products..
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Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31
Posts: 1246
Reg: 10-2005
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Looks like it was worth it though... 
I hope you got good money for that Tokyo Drift advert!  |
Khalid Sarwari
DieHard
Victoria
T
Posts: 677
Reg: 07-2005
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ahh for sure matthew nothing comes for free remember |
Michael Marchant
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer UZZ32 V8 finished in Zymol goodness!
Posts: 145
Reg: 04-2006
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I had some time off after Christmas so I thought I would give my car a Christmas present by giving her the mother of all cleans and a wax to boot. After seeing the results Rob acheived with the Celsior I thought I would give Zymol a go.
So I washed it with Zymol Auto Wash and chamoised it dry (about 1 hour total including detailing the rims) then used their HD-cleanse product to get rid of all the crap that the washing misses (tar, road grime, etc) and the results after that alone were startling. This stage took a bit of elbow grease but it was well worth it. If you look closely at the image below you will see the left side of the bonnet is noticeably duller than the right (easiest to notice down the bottom of the picture). This stage took about 2 hours.
Last step was the wax itself. I used Zymol Titanium which is meant to be very tough, good for daily drivers (same as what Rob had used on the Celsior). Some shots of the finished product below. After close to five hours I am very happy with the results, however next time I will use their Lehm-clay clay bar and two laps of HD-Cleanse then two layers of wax (that should keep me out of trouble for a whole day) 
The quality of the paint job on these cars is fantastic, the depth and colour is just spectacular, once you have done the above!!!
Click the images to see full size.
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Michael Marchant
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer UZZ32 V8 finished in Zymol goodness!
Posts: 149
Reg: 04-2006
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For anyone interested check out the video below, its a story about Paul Dalton who is widely regarded as one of the best car detailers out there. Having said that, I dont think I could ever justify paying 5000 POUNDS for a car detail!!!
http://www.fusionsystems.com.au/soarer/videos/fifth_gear_zymol_report_NEW.avi |
Adam Brown
TryHard
QLD
Soarer TT Manual
Posts: 228
Reg: 07-2005
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Okay, so is the order: wash, paint cleaner/wax remover, clay bar, swirl remover, polish THEN wax?
Or is it wax THEN polish?
To be honest, i've never waxed my car after polish, is that why it doesn't seem to last very long? |
Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
I have WAY less Soarers than Hayden :-(
Posts: 6020
Reg: 05-2005
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Polish THEN wax. |
Jeff Wilkins
TryHard
South Australia
JZZ30 GT-TL
Posts: 383
Reg: 07-2005
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Yeah Adam, polishing without waxing is never a good idea. Polishing removes all of the oxydisation from the surface of your paint (and taking a little paint aswell) leaving it nice and shiney.
It also leaves it completely unprotected (aside from the protective properties of the clear-coat). Applying good quality wax to the paint gives it a sacrificial layer of protection that can be removed when its looking poor and reapplied without needing to remove any more of your clear-coat.
Just think of it as a condom for your paint, always wear protection! |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 1798
Reg: 03-2006
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No Glove... No Love |
Matthew Crawford
Tinkerer
Victoria
Soarer TT
Posts: 36
Reg: 03-2007
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nice soarer at the end of that vid!... is that a 5th gear episode? |
Michael Marchant
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer UZZ32 V8 finished in Zymol goodness!
Posts: 163
Reg: 04-2006
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Matthew Crawford wrote on Sunday, April 29, 2007 - 09:27 am:nice soarer at the end of that vid!... is that a 5th gear episode?
Yep thats Tiff learning to drift race. You can see the full episode at www.finalgear.com |
Adam Brown
TryHard
QLD
Soarer TT Manual
Posts: 229
Reg: 07-2005
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Can someone suggest a good wax other than zymol that's not ridiculously expensive?! |
Jeff Wilkins
TryHard
South Australia
JZZ30 GT-TL
Posts: 391
Reg: 07-2005
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I like Meguiars Gold Class Wax (carnauba wax), does a good job and doesnt cost the earth. |
Jeff Bedsor
Tinkerer
QLD
TT
Posts: 64
Reg: 10-2006
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I have been told to wash first with Morningfresh as it helps to strip all the crud off. |
Aaron Mead
Goo Roo
NT
TT
Posts: 1534
Reg: 03-2006
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Tech Wax, meguiars is good stuff, especially for hot climates. I used it on the benz above and my soarer, it lasts fer ages. The paste is the best IMO. (comes in a liquid too)
CT-16 Truckwash or whatever its called is just harsh enough to strip all the old wax and grime off and leave bare clearcoat underneath. A good primer to a claybar then wax without resorting to a full cut. |
Brian Timms
TryHard
New South Wales
TT Soarer Goodness.
Posts: 283
Reg: 12-2006
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Adam Brown wrote on Tuesday, May 01, 2007 - 11:18 am:Can someone suggest a good wax other than zymol that's not ridiculously expensive?!
Personally, I wont touch anything else but P21s wax for my car.
It's not stupidly expensive, but it's not the cheapest either.
I used to use the P21s on my 180sx, it left a mirror like finish on the paintwork, and lasted for ages.
I have used it twice on the Soarer, and it's been awesome, but my paintwork is pretty pathetic, so I have moved away fom wasting the stuff until I sand back and respray the car.
I am willing to do a coating on a couple of cars in Sydney to show it's potential.
B. |
Daniel Lee
Goo Roo
Victoria
Soarer GT Limited UZZ31 V8
Posts: 1062
Reg: 07-2005
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Yep I've been using P21s wax for six months now and the result is awesome!!
I've bought a tub of P21s wax and cost me $50. |
Brian Kelly
Tinkerer
Colorado USA
NA Inline 6 2JZ
Posts: 23
Reg: 04-2007
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Here's mine after a good wash, dry, and two coats of wax. Also, the last three are with a slow shutter speed and turned out really cool. Also the Defender reflected in it.
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Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
GT4.0 V8
Posts: 7861
Reg: 11-2004
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Mirror finish - very impressive! |
Brian Kelly
Tinkerer
Colorado USA
NA Inline 6 2JZ
Posts: 25
Reg: 04-2007
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Thanks Peter. Done with cheap-o Turtle Wax too... |
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