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Alen Sadikovic
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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 08:10 pm, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i was going through carsales.com , cant make up my mind what to get.
the the celsior came into my head, and i ran into this one

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/TOYOTA/CELSIOR/details.aspx?PriceMax=15000&Model=CELSIO R&__Nne=20&__N=4294962861+82+410+4294960964+834+285+257&Make=TOYOTA&State=Victoria&silo=1003&state_i d=82&distance=25&Cr=0&seot=0&__sid=10F741B4B002&R=384429&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCount_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=4

what do you guys reckon? is it any good, is it worth the money? are celsior's reliable cars?

need advise, need something that wont give me much head aches.
Brendan Horton
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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 08:41 pm, by:  Brendan Horton (Vip) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like it is a clean example and I would say it would be worth the money.. Looks to be in good nick, no sign of obvious foul treatment. I would say its worth a look :-)
Adam Sanders
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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 08:44 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

mate i would buy a local LS400 and save yourself the inevitable air suspension problems.

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/dealer/LEXUS/LS400/details.aspx?__Ns=pCar_StatusSort_Int32|1||pCar_Price_Decimal|0&__Nne=20&State=Victoria&R=978125&state_id=82&__N=903+834+285+258+287&distan ce=25&__Dx=mode%20matchany&trecs=8&__sid=111D3D53B3D1&sort_type=2&silo=1000&keywords=ls400&__Ntk=Car All&Cr=1&__D=ls400&seot=0&__Ntt=ls400&__Ntx=mode%20matchallpartial
Adam Sanders
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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 08:46 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

or damn supercharged with coilovers
http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/TOYOTA/CELSIOR/details.aspx?__Ns=pCar_Price_Decimal%7C0 %7C%7CpCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32%7C1%7C%7CpCar_ImageCount_Int32%7C1&__Nne=20&State=All%20States&R =665754&state_id=0&__N=0+834+285+257&distance=25&__Dx=mode%20matchany&trecs=35&__sid=111D3D53B3D1&so rt_type=2&silo=1003&keywords=ls400&__Ntk=CarAll&Cr=13&__D=ls400&seot=0&__Ntt=ls400&__Ntx=mode%20matc hallpartial
Alen Sadikovic
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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 09:43 pm, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ohh i like the supercharged one, the only prob it in N.T
lol
Ryan Posselt
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Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:02 pm, by:  Ryan Posselt (Yakusaryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alen that car looks great, a really clean example at a good price... celsiors are great cars you must be prepared to spend $$$ on the suspension bushings though but in the end it is well worth it. The car you have shown is the same colour as mine which is really practicle AND it comes with a working, aftermarket, properly fitted stereo!! bonus take it for a drive i think you will find it to be very nice!
Ryan Posselt
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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 09:28 am, by:  Ryan Posselt (Yakusaryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I rekon the grey interior will age better and hence hold its value + as i said the other one comes with aftermarket goodies :-)
Adam Sanders
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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 11:48 am, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can pick up a 89 celsior for about 12k, I would try to find a 95 LS400 for about 17k it comes with a whole lot more features including big brakes
Alen Sadikovic
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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 04:59 pm, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

17k is way out of ma budget, if i had that much money i would get my self a XR6 (love em) anyways.


Ryan Posselt wrote on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:02 pm:

elsiors are great cars you must be prepared to spend $$$ on the suspension bushings




how much is $$$, because the whole reason i am considering to change cars is because my TT is costing me a lot of $$$
Neil Griffiths
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Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 09:47 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

$12,000 for an 89 Model / Tired / Small Interior Model.

OR

Extra $5k odd for a 97 Model / Local / Fresher / Large Interior LS400

Mmmmmmmm I wonder which way I would go ! :-)
Andrew Ferres
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Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 11:12 am, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

~$1k gets you all new bushes.
~$2.5k gets you new airbag suspension.

This is just parts, fitting is extra.
Alen Sadikovic
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Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 04:15 pm, by:  Alen Sadikovic (Alen87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

wow thats about 4k plus if the air bags go.......defently would have to think about that now.
Ryan Posselt
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Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 06:05 pm, by:  Ryan Posselt (Yakusaryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

my car has 225000kms on it with original bags i don't think bags are a huge problem
Andrew Ferres
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Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 06:15 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine has I guess about 150-180k km on it, and the bags are on their way out, but they still work fine.
If you leave the car parked for a week with the suspension turned off, the front will sink a bit.
So the front ones are leaking slightly.

That said, nothing in the suspension has been changed since it left the factory.
And you compare it to my Cressida, which has all new bushes, new shocks, new springs, and the Celsior ride is smoother, more comfortable, AND it handles better.

So I'll definitely be replacing all the bushes and air bag shocks in the next year, get it back to that factory performance.
Greg Nikitiuk
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Thursday, April 12, 2007 - 09:13 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Neil Griffiths wrote on Wednesday, April 11, 2007 - 09:47 pm:

$12,000 for an 89 Model / Tired / Small Interior Model.

OR

Extra $5k odd for a 97 Model / Local / Fresher / Large Interior LS400

Mmmmmmmm I wonder which way I would go ! :-)




here we go again Neil...shut up! LOL

Alen, take Rob's Celsior for a drive
Ryan Posselt
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Friday, April 13, 2007 - 11:56 am, by:  Ryan Posselt (Yakusaryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Random question...... Does anyone know or is there anyway to find out how many imported UCF10/11 Celsiors (as opposed to Ls400's) are in the country???
Ryan Seddon
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Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 12:46 pm, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Guys new member, I have no idea how to create a new topic I've been on many other forums but this one confuses the hell outta me.

Anyway I found a topic that related to me situation, I myself am looking to get a celsior and have found one that I like

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/TOYOTA/CELSIOR/details.aspx?PriceMax=15000&Model=CELSIO R&__Nne=20&__N=4294962861+82+410+4294960964+834+285+257&Make=TOYOTA&State=Victoria&silo=1003&state_i d=82&distance=25&Cr=4&seot=0&__sid=11258E804422&R=1091679&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCount_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=6

the only thing that bothers me about it is that it has 220,000km on the clock. What do you guys think of it would it be worth buying one with that much kms on it? Or the other alternative I was looking at was something like

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/TOYOTA/CELSIOR/details.aspx?PriceMax=15000&Model=CELSIO R&__Nne=20&__N=4294962861+82+410+4294960964+834+285+257&Make=TOYOTA&State=Victoria&silo=1003&state_i d=82&distance=25&Cr=1&seot=0&__sid=11258E804422&R=560096&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCount_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=6

or

http://www.carsales.com.au/used-cars/private/TOYOTA/CELSIOR/details.aspx?PriceMax=15000&Model=CELSIO R&__Nne=20&__N=4294962861+82+410+4294960964+834+285+257&Make=TOYOTA&State=Victoria&silo=1003&state_i d=82&distance=25&Cr=0&seot=0&__sid=11258E804422&R=1167319&__Ns=pCar_PrivateSpecialFlag_Int32|1||pCar_ImageCount_Int32|1||pCar_LastModifiedDate_DateTime|1&trecs=6

and getting a bodykit and wheels myself.

Are the 1UZFE very reliable because I really do like the first example.

PS. This forum won't let me post anything that has formatted links in it, it just takes ages to load then give me an internal 500 server error?
Peter Nitschke
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Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 01:31 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ryan, Soarer Central is a bit different, but once you get used to it, you will appreciate it more I hope. :-)

To start a new thread, scroll to the bottom of each Topic for the "Start new thread" button.

I am not sure what you mean by "formatted links" but the safest way to post links is to use the "Create a hyperlink" button - 3rd from the right above the message editing window.

The 1UZFE is an extremely reliable engine internally, so that will be the least of your problems. However standard things like rear engine oil seal may need replacing, and welsh plugs can rust out if the cooling system hasn't been looked after. They can also get a bit of a rattle from the cams/buckets, more annoying than a real problem however.

The problems listed above are not that common however, and even if there was a catastrophic failure of the engine, you can pick up s/h ones cheaply as there is very little demand for them - again a good sign.
Ryan Seddon
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Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 01:42 pm, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Peter, yeah seems like a very informative place.

Yeah the create link button is what I mean by formatted links, I wanted to have "click here" instead of the stupidly long links carsales like to give you. I clicked that button and entered the link but the post never goes through and it spits back the internal server error. If I takes out the create links bits from the post and just post the raw url it goes through fine?

So I shouldn't really be phased by 220k on the clock? If I like what I see i'll plan on getting it inspected so hopefully they should pick up on any of those problems you mentioned.

Cheers thanks for your help.
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Saturday, May 19, 2007 - 01:54 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it's going to depend on how well it's been looked after. If regular quality maintenance has been done, then it shouldn't be too bad. There are reports from the US of having done a million miles or k's (not sure which). That could all be long trips or fairly continuous running, but it's still impressive.

To do a tidy link, use \newurl{URL, text description} (from the Formatting Help button, right end above the edit window).
Ryan Seddon
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 10:20 am, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey thanks again Peter. Just one more question where would I source parts for the celsior? Do toyota supply any or would I need to contact lexus for parts? Do the sc400/soarers use the same engine/parts?

Yeah that was the exact formatting I was using to create the link but it just hangs for me? I've tried it in about 4 different browsers and they all do the same.
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 11:31 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Toyota should have access to most parts, that is where we get most of our Soarer parts from. You need to have your model, chassis and VIN code ready for them, and it can help if you have a part number. Some dealers - or more correctly some people working at the dealers - are more helpful than others, so if you think you are getting the run around, try another dealer. Most will also do freight, so it doesn't have to be a local dealer.

Test using your first link. I went to the web page, then copied/pasted the address from the web browser Address area.

Click Here

Make sure you use curly brackets { } not plain ones ( )
Warner Lamb
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Sunday, May 20, 2007 - 07:16 pm, by:  Warner Lamb (Warner) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The second car is very reasonable. But I am very sure that steering wheel wear looks overly worn for 97,000km. Look for service records and Japanese stickers inside drivers door near hinges.

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