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Kevin Cameron
Tinkerer
NSW
Celsior

Posts: 66
Reg: 02-2007

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 Monday, September 10, 2007 - 06:25 pm, by:  Kevin Cameron (Kevin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Hey all,

Have just paid for a MiNES ECU to suit a Celsior from Japan, and now just have to wait a week or two for it to arrive. Looking forward to the said performance increase that I have heard about. Although when I finally get around to supercharging it, I guess the MiNES will be up for sale. Then again, maybe I will be happy with the MiNES power and just convert it to manual instead of supercharging.


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Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8

Posts: 1468
Reg: 11-2005

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 Monday, September 10, 2007 - 06:39 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Hmm, Very nice what would you re-sell it for if you do at a later date?
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior

Posts: 1140
Reg: 07-2005

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 Monday, September 10, 2007 - 09:50 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Kevin, give us your appraisal of the upgrade when ready.
Kevin Cameron
Tinkerer
NSW
Celsior

Posts: 68
Reg: 02-2007

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 Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 10:20 am, by:  Kevin Cameron (Kevin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Gee Mike, I haven't even got it yet and you are asking me about selling it. If you look, there is one on here for sale from about a month ago, not sure if its sold yet.
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8

Posts: 1471
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 Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 02:54 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Haha yeah, There was one In NZ for 1/2 a K and I would have taken it but I didnt realize how good they are!

I think Rich O'Neil managed to get that one! :-)
Rich O'neil
TryHard
Queensland
90 Celsior

Posts: 172
Reg: 05-2006

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 Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 08:32 pm, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I hate to be the bearer of potentially bad news Kevin ....but if that unit you just bought was the one for $699 odd US on E-Bay I think you'll find that it is for a late 92 to 94 and as such the plugs don't match the earlier ECU's , even worserer is that apparently the board voltage changed so you can't even play the take wire's out of the plugs and move them game !!
Of course if it wasn't that unit then it doesn't matter , it's just that the 9547 seems awfully familiar .
Kevin Cameron
Tinkerer
NSW
Celsior

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 Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 09:46 pm, by:  Kevin Cameron (Kevin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Oh sh*t. Does anyone want to by a MiNES ECU for a 92-94 Celsior? Will just have to wait til it arrives and have a look
Kevin Cameron
Tinkerer
NSW
Celsior

Posts: 70
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 Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 09:49 pm, by:  Kevin Cameron (Kevin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

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Craig Webber
DieHard
Vic
TT and LS400

Posts: 613
Reg: 07-2005

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 Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 10:12 pm, by:  Craig Webber (Soarr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Wait till it get's here.
And if not fit let me know.
Rich O'neil
TryHard
Queensland
90 Celsior

Posts: 173
Reg: 05-2006

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 Wednesday, September 12, 2007 - 10:28 pm, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Oh dear , that's the one , those plugs won't match the years 89 to mid 92 , they have bigger plugs and only 3 together and then the fourth plug on it's own .
My Brother actually bought the Mines unit I have and then found it wouldn't fit his 93 LS , so he gave it to me , his 93 LS400 ECU matches those plugs , he was actually bidding on it but it got a bit rich for him , he actually had removed his ECU to check that the plugs matched , that's why the mines number was familiar to me .
Kevin Cameron
Tinkerer
NSW
Celsior

Posts: 71
Reg: 02-2007

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 Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 09:03 am, by:  Kevin Cameron (Kevin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Oh POO Rich, does your brother still need one?

P.S. I didn't pay US$699 you mentioned, so if its wrong he can get it cheaper than that.
Mike Beck
Goo Roo
New Zealand
Celsior UCF11 V8

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 Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 01:46 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Damn what a bugger Kevin! Such a frustrating problem... :-(
Simon Martin
Tinkerer
Queensland
Celsoir UCF11

Posts: 32
Reg: 06-2007

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 Friday, September 14, 2007 - 09:11 am, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Man i've emailed so many shops now about an aftermarket ECU for my Celsior, eg, microtech, apex'i or whatever, and none of them have responded. slack bastards. I guess i'll have to ring them or rock to their shop =\
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior

Posts: 1142
Reg: 07-2005

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 Friday, September 14, 2007 - 09:24 am, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Not ready yet....but just wait a little
http://etuner.com.au/content/view/17/1/
Andrew Ferres
DieHard
WA
'90 C-F Celsior V8, '84 Soarer V8

Posts: 697
Reg: 07-2005

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 Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 02:27 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Simon Martin wrote on Friday, September 14, 2007 - 09:11 am:

Man i've emailed so many shops now about an aftermarket ECU for my Celsior, eg, microtech, apex'i or whatever, and none of them have responded. slack bastards. I guess i'll have to ring them or rock to their shop



ANY aftermarket ecu will work in a Celsior.
However ALL will require some serious wiring to keep everything running as per factory.

(By the above I mean motec, microtech, wolf, etc etc, not plug-in ecu's like Mines, PowerFC etc).


Things like ABS, Airbags, aircon, suspension, etc could very well rely on data from the main ecu (road speed, revs, etc) to work correctly, and you'd have to spend a fair amount of time ensuring you keep the required signals.


If you just want an ecu, and don't care about the rest (abs, airbags, etc), then just buy whatever and whack it in. All can control a 1UZ.
If you want everything to work, and you want drive-in drive-out, then expect a hefty bill, and I'd ONLY go somewhere that has done it before (like Neils car)
Kevin Cameron
Tinkerer
NSW
Celsior

Posts: 73
Reg: 02-2007

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 Saturday, September 15, 2007 - 03:37 pm, by:  Kevin Cameron (Kevin) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Well, the MiNES was for the later Celsior 92-94 and I have a buyer already in New Zealand. But, I do still have an Adaptronic here for whenever I supercharge it. I guess I could get this put on the car now and see how much better they can get it to go.

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Simon Martin
Tinkerer
Queensland
Celsoir UCF11

Posts: 34
Reg: 06-2007

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 Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 10:19 am, by:  Simon Martin (Commander) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I was under the impression that when getting an aftermarket ecu you only replaced the engine control one and left all the other ones to control electronics etc. I thought the celsior had 36 ecu's or something like that?

Like the main one under the glove box controls the engine functions right?
Andrew Ferres
DieHard
WA
'90 C-F Celsior V8, '84 Soarer V8, '91 Supra V8

Posts: 702
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 Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 10:35 am, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
There is still the potential that some of the other ecu's rely on signals from the engine ecu (revs, speed, etc), and these need to be retained for perfect operation.
Tai Johnsen
TryHard
QLD
UZZ31 - V8

Posts: 378
Reg: 04-2006

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 Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 03:34 pm, by:  Tai Johnsen (Privatejohnsen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
With stand alone management the factory engine ECU is still wired in and talks to all the other computers as well as the dash and auto gearbox, and the stand alone just intercepts the engine sensors and controls the engine.

As far as I am aware the MINES is a standard ECU that is internally modified and therefore is swapped out with the original ECU.
Greg Nikitiuk
Goo Roo
Vic
Celsior

Posts: 1144
Reg: 07-2005

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 Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 07:59 pm, by:  Greg Nikitiuk (Jestr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Tai Johnsen wrote on Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 03:34 pm:

MINES is a standard ECU that is internally modified and therefore is swapped out with the original ECU



100% correct, straight swap with no modifications whatsoever.
Sam Avery
Tinkerer
south australia
celsior v8

Posts: 76
Reg: 10-2006

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 Tuesday, October 09, 2007 - 10:01 pm, by:  Sam Avery (Samavery) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
hrm, maybe i am one of the only other lucky buggers to have one of these..... teehehe
pitty i have lost my licence and have only done 1 test run in nearly 6months of owning the ecu.
i was very happy with the results and cant wait for the 9months to pass before i can drive it again.
unless someone wants to offer me something for the ecu...i could do with the cash.

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