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Adam Sanders
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 02:08 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Last night a guy tried to turn left into a road from the middle lane while i was in the left lane. He hit me i mounted the curb , hit a brick wall and came to a stop.

My Front bumper and 2 front guards are stuffed, plus my wheel is like hanging off and i am assuming both front air shocks are gone also front headlights and corner lights

He admitted fault and wrote a small note out saying so and said he would ring his insurance however I rang NRMA who he said he was insured with and they have stated he has none.

At the moment he is not picking up any calls does anyone have any suggestions what to do.
David Vaughan
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 02:12 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Very sorry to hear that Adam. What information do you have? Name? Vehicle description? Registration number? Witness? I am taking it that you did not get to see his licence. Easy to forget in the situation, unfortunately.
Adam Sanders
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 02:20 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sorry i did get all his details and everything.

I spoke to his mother and he is 30 and on the pension I believe he has some kind of problem to be on the pension.

I doubt they have any insurance which leaves me with not many options.

I think i may need to buy another car for the meantime
Perry Morgan
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 02:31 pm, by:  Perry Morgan (Uzz32) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What insurance do you have? If you have full comp then they will pay for your car and deal with him to get the money one way or the other.
David Vaughan
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 02:33 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You are insured are you not? If so, let them do the work, and if not then it will take longer and be messier but you are not required to be a one-person charity merely because he drove you off the road.

Pension or not, he was driving a car and therefore should have resources with which to meet his debt.

Sorry if I sound unsympathetic to the other party but you are not responsible for his driving failure.
Adam Sanders
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 03:18 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I only have third party property at the moment.
can i still let my insurance handle it
David Vaughan
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 03:55 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Unsure about that because I have never claimed on one of those in the brief periods I have held them. Did you damage any third party property which might be a claim against you? The brick wall?

How are you off for legal resources? Since you ticked other boxes I assume the police have a report. Lean on them and on court officials to help you out with routine forms or proper avenues, but at this point the basic step is to get an estimate of repair cost and write a letter of demand. You may wind up with payment over time but try to get it up front because time payments can become a whole series of separate demands lying unpaid.

The problem is that it sounds like the damage will be above the limit for the small claims court which is otherwise the cheapest and fastest way of dealing with these things. That consigns you to real lawyers or doing it yourself. Well defined short consultations (i.e. know your agenda beforehand and get answers on which you can act) with a real lawyer comprise a good option if you can afford it.
Adam Sanders
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 04:21 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok ill go ahead and get a quote on the panel damage and start off woth a letter of demand and go from there.

How am i supposed to quote things like control arms and air suspension
David Vaughan
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 04:50 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Depends where you think you can get the parts. Who would be doing the work for you? Your claim should be for a mechanic to do it with imported parts, e.g. Niall. That gives you some negotiating room at least. If that is more than the new value of the car, ask for write-off value (i.e. equivalent replacement). You are not then obliged to replace it but it does put a reasonable ceiling on what you can ask.

Time for a caveat: Please remember I am not a lawyer and am giving advice in good faith based on lay experience and for no reward. That is, I have no wish to be sued either!

Good luck with it.
Ian Johnston
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Monday, October 31, 2005 - 07:56 pm, by:  Ian Johnston (Ted) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Third party property insurance only covers the other blokes damage if it was your fault.
You have no claim on your insurance company.
I dont want to sound like a preacher, but it amazes me how people say they cant afford comprehensive insurance. I know it is not cheap, but the sooner you start the cheaper it becomes.
These cars are not cheap, so why throw money away by not haveing some coverage.
I am sure people can afford a few beers a week, and a packet of cigs, petrol to cruise, so why not cut down in some of these areas and get some insurance.
Sorry for the rant, but I cannot afford to NOT have insurance!
Adam Sanders
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Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 04:12 am, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thats true ian i might think about it from now on.

I am getting a quote for all parts and will start some kind of legal action.

In the meantime i will begin replacing parts on my car. Is anyone aware of where i can get some parts eg front bumper, tie rod and stuff?

maybe a whole wrecked one or a cheap import would be the go?
Jeff Harper
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Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 08:33 am, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most 3rd party has a clause in it for a certain amount of repair to your if the other guy was un-insured, ring and ask them.
Damien Smith
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Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 01:04 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes, this happened to a mate of mine who got knocked off his bike when he only had 3rd party property with NRMA and the other guy wasn't insured. NRMA took the bloke to court to get the money to repair his bike. Worth asking as Jeff says.
Adam Sanders
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Tuesday, November 01, 2005 - 11:13 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks alot guys.

I have spoken to him and he has stated if the cops tell him he is at fault he will pay.

Other good news is I have the car up on my hoist and damage has been limited to

Front Bumper bar
2 front guards
1 headlight
1 DS Tie rod
Leak in steering rack.

I will need a headlight, front bumper from somewhere. Does anyone know if a Local LS400 will be suitable. I will have to try some wreckers.

I am yet to find out if the Air socks are rooted
Jeff Harper
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Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 08:52 am, by:  Jeff Harper (Jeffh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Adam, take it to a smash repairer, get a quote and let repairer worry about sourcing parts.

Until you do you cannot do any temp repairs unless the idiot disputes the damage.

Slow down buddy.
Adam Sanders
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Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 11:47 am, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey thanks i am getting a quote from a panel beaters and pedders.

Then i will go from there
Daniel Ribarovski
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Wednesday, November 02, 2005 - 10:36 pm, by:  Daniel Ribarovski (Danielribo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Depending on who you're insured with you'll probably have an uninsured drivers extension on your third party property policy. This means that if the other party isn't insured, they will pay up to $3000 in repairs. I don't know how much the repair job will be, but if it's going to be a battle to get the money its an option to consider.

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