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Rich O'neil
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90 Celsior

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Friday, July 18, 2008 - 07:48 am, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

had my shifter out completely last night on a look and see mission .
Haven't been able to get the later model handle with the O/D button on the side...it irritates me , my Cressida had it on the side , my V6 Camry had the O/D button on the side but not my Celsior !!
So I now have the first of the gated shifters complete , it's not a direct bolt swap over but won't be too difficult , there's nothing on the gated unit that's not already on the original shifter , even the wiring won't be too difficult as even though the colours don't match with them side by side you know what goes where .
Most important thing is the connection to the G/Box is the same .
We will see how it goes tomorrow , will be at it til it's done .
Steve Eardley
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celsior

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Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 03:45 am, by:  Steve Eardley (Steve2006) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Could you please take some pictures as you go along?
Andrew Smith
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Saturday, July 19, 2008 - 07:36 pm, by:  Andrew Smith (Bt1323) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this has been done in japan. if i get time ill scan the pics and upload it
Don Bagnall
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Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 08:29 am, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've got the pic tutorial on the gated shifter installation, but it's for doing it to a Soarer..........a LOT more faffing around than a Celsior/LS400.
Don Bagnall
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Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 08:37 am, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

This is the shifter parts pic from the 10/94 - 2000 Celsior/LS400 EPC.

Lotsa little bits n' pieces.

Rich, if ya need any part number help just drop us an email:
bagnall@xtra.co.nz

10/94 - 7/97.

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I can do a close up on any part of these pics if you need it.

Don Bagnall
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Sunday, July 20, 2008 - 08:46 am, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

And the 7/97 - 2000 pic.


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Rich O'neil
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Monday, July 21, 2008 - 09:54 am, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Shifter is in !! Haven't finished the trim yet and I've done it a bit different to the guy on Club Lexus , I haven't chopped apart the gated unit , it sits a bit higher than the standard unit and I will play with the trim instead .
The wiring was a bit tricky due to the extra switch stopping you going from neutral to reverse , but I now have it working correctly and I will do a diagram and take some pics .
Being able to work the O/D by just pushing sidewards is great , it's less effort to go from Park to reverse but more effort to go from Drive to park when you stop and leave the car , like it a lot and it also makes it look a bit more modern .
Don it's only the very first of the gated shifters that will work easily as as soon as it went to the 5 Spd box you have an extra position IE: D , D4 , D3 , D2 , L where as the one I have is D , D3 , D2 , L just like the original and as I fitted the thing as a whole didn't need to break it down .
But thanks for the diagram anyway I have filed it way just in case !!.
I don't suppose you can get you hands on Australian lexus parts prices can you ?
Don Bagnall
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Monday, July 21, 2008 - 04:06 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, sorry Rich, no access to that sort of info.
Stuart Smith
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Friday, August 01, 2008 - 08:06 pm, by:  Stuart Smith (Leader428) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don, Would it be possible for you to post or email a close-up pic. of the shifter mechanism for the `91 V8 Soarer, I think the pivot bushes are crook/missing in mine.
Don Bagnall
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Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 12:18 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No worries Stuart.

I replaced mine about 3 years ago........1 was super worn, and the other was a tad floppy.

If I remember they were about $6(NZD) for the two of em.
Not hugely hard to do, just fiddly.......took about an hour from go to woa





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Bob O'Brien
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Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 03:21 pm, by:  Bob O'Brien (Barcode) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Don
Where do these images come from? Is this software anyone can get a hold of?
Don Bagnall
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Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 04:15 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Bob,

The images are from the Toyota EPC (Electronic Parts Catalogue).

Stuart Smith
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Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 05:41 pm, by:  Stuart Smith (Leader428) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thank Ewe Don , You really do have the goods.
Thanks also for the heads-up on the Toyota EPC source.
Hey, If Ass is an Americanism, Is Ewe a Kiwizdom?
Bob O'Brien
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Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 10:32 pm, by:  Bob O'Brien (Barcode) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the info Don, much appreciated
Don Bagnall
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Monday, August 04, 2008 - 04:34 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Stuart Smith wrote on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 05:41 pm:

Is Ewe a Kiwizdom?



As in Ewes fulla's..............Bucket if I know (he said sheepishly)

Er.......

Moooooo!

Oar knot, as the case may bee)

ps: I thought an Ass was what the late J.C. cruised around Jerusalem on till he got his divine mitts on a 38 Buick Straight 8
David Barnes
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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 09:30 am, by:  David Barnes (Toyota_celsior) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Woah these gated shifters aint cheap,

Saw one the same as Rich as installed on yahoo japan for $400.

I was thinking of doing this untill i saw the price tag.

Nice job tho Rich, got any pics mate?
David Barnes
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Tuesday, August 05, 2008 - 09:36 am, by:  David Barnes (Toyota_celsior) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

btw guys you can download the Toyota EPC off the internet.

Here is a link to the torret on mini nova

http://www.mininova.org/tor/1154565
Stuart Smith
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Don Bagnall wrote on Sunday, August 03, 2008 - 12:18 pm:

Not hugely hard to do, just fiddly.......took about an hour from go to woa




Fibber.....
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Stuart Smith
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Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 07:10 pm, by:  Stuart Smith (Leader428) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The shifter bushes (Part # 90385-11003) are a $4.00 purchase for the pair, and a stocked item, must be common to other Toyota models.
While I have it apart I will modify the shifter to take a more conventional gear knob, and lower it.
The lock out function will be done by pushing down on the knob for park reverse and low.
Overdrive will be via a switch in the TRC hole operating a latching relay.
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Don Bagnall
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Monday, August 25, 2008 - 06:01 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Stuart Smith wrote on Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 06:55 pm:

Fibber.....



Jeez!, ya sure ya pulled enough of the car to bits
Stuart Smith
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Don Bagnall wrote on Monday, August 25, 2008 - 06:01 pm:

Jeez!, ya sure ya pulled enough of the car to bits



Seemed like a good idea at the time.

BTW, I finished the shifter mod.(except the relay for O/D function). I am very happy with how it worked out, much easier to operate.
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Don Bagnall
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Monday, August 25, 2008 - 07:32 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks damn fine Stuart...........Actually classier than the original......Noice!
Mike Beck
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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 03:25 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm, looks like good work!

But I don't think I could get used to something like that, I prefer my factory spruce shifter over any other shifter, other than a TRD shifter for a W58!

Stuart Smith
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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 07:29 pm, by:  Stuart Smith (Leader428) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Mike Beck wrote on Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 03:25 pm:

I don't think I could get used to something like that




Mike, That was the reason that I changed it, I kept pushing the O/D button instead of the lock-out button, driven too many miles in old American cars I guess. Plus I wanted to lower it.
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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 08:48 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ah yes, I see it from your perspective.

With me since I've became interested in the Soarers, I always liked the automatic shifter as it was different from 99% of other Japanese cars at the time which where like a fist sticking up out of the dash, nasty!

I do love the gated shifters like the later model Celsior have though. Very euro looking.... :-)

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