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Adam Sanders
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, November 08, 2005 - 11:11 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

After the accident I have just replaced my steering rack and put on the wheels again and i went to take my car off the hoist and to my dismay I realised the back half of the car was dumped on its ass. It seems like either both rear airbogs have popped even though the accident was at the front, or a hose has come loose or something else has happened.

I cant even get it off the hoist now and I wonder if anyone can help me diagnose this problem. Where do I check if a hose is loose or why the back of the car is not pumping up.

When i turned the car off it made a funny clicking noise from the front right hand side (compressor maybe?) then it stopped.

I appreciate any help given
David Vaughan
DieHard
ACT
Soarer GT-L (4.0 V8) Lexus is300 (3.0 VVT-i 6)

Posts: 667
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Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 08:51 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Did you lock the suspension before you hoisted it? Apologies if that is too obvious but if you did not then the pump has probably died.

Assuming similarity between the Celsior and Soarer in this area, the pump sits in the place where you heard the clicking sound.

Have a look at these threads where corresponding problems were diagnosed on Soarers.

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/126/9904.html
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/126/6449.html
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/126/4982.html
Justin Leafe
Tinkerer
Queensland
Celsior

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Reg: 09-2005

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Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 09:16 am, by:  Justin Leafe (Dust) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe your airlines for the rear were damaged in the accident.
Tim Zhao
Tinkerer
nsw
Celsior!!!

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Wednesday, November 09, 2005 - 11:00 pm, by:  Tim Zhao (Key) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Adam, How much did you cost for your steering rack and where did you get the parts, i need to change my one soon..
Adam Sanders
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 10:06 am, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can buy my old steering rack for $100 it is missing the driver side tie rod and rack is leaking or if you call 97551055
www.nourmongroup.com they will do obe for 300
Tim Zhao
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nsw
Celsior!!!

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Thursday, November 10, 2005 - 07:58 pm, by:  Tim Zhao (Key) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Adam!
Tim Zhao
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nsw
Celsior!!!

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Saturday, November 12, 2005 - 06:14 pm, by:  Tim Zhao (Key) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Adam, its your wheels still for sale?
Adam Sanders
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NSW
V8

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Sunday, November 13, 2005 - 07:14 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes are you interested
Tim Zhao
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nsw
Celsior!!!

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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 10:01 pm, by:  Tim Zhao (Key) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes! Could you please send me some picture of them and what is the tyres brand? condition?
Alex Cimpoesu
Tinkerer
Victoria
Stagea RS4

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Monday, November 14, 2005 - 10:58 pm, by:  Alex Cimpoesu (Alexcim) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Where in the front was the accident?

All the air in the suspension system is coming from the compressor in the front driverside quarter.

From this there are three airlines. One goes from the pump to the FR and one to the FL and then one goes under the car, under the driver and across to the otherside, into the boot where it then attaches to the two rear solinoids. The two rear solenoids are visible when you remove the boot carpet.

I dont think a hose would "come loose" as when i was removing my air suspension system there were two things that make me doubt this. One, the pressure in the system is HUGE. I didnt bleed a hose at first and it just popped off, scared the friggin crap out of me. Second, the connectors all have metal clips that secure it in the hole on both sides.

The only problem i see would be that there is a crack in one of the lines OR something i wouldnt know/dont want to comment on.

The whole system works in "parts" IE to fill the rear air bags first the compressor pressurizes the lines compressor to solenoids, then the air is put into the bags and so on, thats why its a gradual, up, stop, up, stop when it is filling.

Finally, it could just be that for some reason the rear bags have vented to the atmo. Your car will not refill the bags unless it is lowered to a level where the height sensors tell it that it needs to fill up. So just put the hoist down to as low as it goes, or put the wheels on bricks or something and then turn the car on and see if it pumps them up/itself off the hoist?

You think you are having issues getting your car off a hoist, imaging getting a celsior that has just had its air suspension removed and then reinstalled (stupid idiots that sold me wrong suspension) which has no pressure in it at all off JACKSTANDS! Yeh, i did it, lots of slow lowering in a see saw motion... argh

Eitherway, good luck with it mate
Adam Sanders
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Tuesday, November 15, 2005 - 11:19 am, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

tim will get back to you,

Rims are farmas and tyres are good condition but i will send you pics this weekend
Tim Zhao
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nsw
Celsior!!!

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Sunday, November 20, 2005 - 03:53 pm, by:  Tim Zhao (Key) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Weekend is going to END!!
Adam Sanders
Tinkerer
NSW
V8

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Monday, November 21, 2005 - 09:08 pm, by:  Adam Sanders (Abz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL its 4 days away

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