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Cassie Baxter
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Qld
V8 Celsior

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 11:21 am, by:  Cassie Baxter (Cass_cel) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Everyone,

It's been awhile since I've written on here so I have a few questions about my Celsior.

As you may or may not be aware I'm not that great with the technicalities of cars like most of you on here so please bare with me.

My first issue is my boot latch no longer opens my boot. I have to open it with my key. Is this a common issue and where would be the first place to start by fixing this?

The next issue I have is a bit hard to explain so I know I may not be able to get it resolved without taking it to someone but I thought I'd try anyway. My car seems to start up fine in the mornings but when I drive it home from work or it has been left in the sun for a few hours the car seems to die before starting. To give you an example, when I turn the key in the ignition it sounds like its not very healthy then the car appears to die (all the revs drop down) and then a second later it will turn on. I'm assuming it may be a fuel pump issue but I'm not sure. (Speaking of fuel my car smells like fuel at the end of the day too not sure if this is common). Hopefully that explanation made sense. Even though my car is running now I'm worried that it may be dying.

If anyone has any suggestions I would love to hear it. Thanks for all your help in advance!
Ryan Posselt
TryHard
NSW
Celsior V8

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 03:00 pm, by:  Ryan Posselt (Yakusaryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Starter Motor? Alternator? Dunno.... If ya need Spares you know who can provide.... ;)
Peter Nitschke
Junk Filterer
South Australia
UZZ30 UZZ31

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 04:43 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does the Celsior have a boot lock near the bonnet release like Soarers do?

Fuel pump ECU may be causing the 2nd problem. Search for "Fuel pump ECU jumper"

Petrol smell is not good at all and really needs to be investigated.
Aaron Mead
Goo Roo
NT
Celsior 1UZ-FE Mines, JZZ30 1.5JZ-GTE To4z

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 06:08 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What Peter said.

Theres a place in the middle of the boot latch/fuel lid where a button resides. When pushed in, it locks the boot release mechanism from inside the vehicle, meaning you have to use a key.

Put your key in this button and turn, and it will pop back out.
Rich O'neil
TryHard
Queensland
90 Celsior

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Tuesday, September 22, 2009 - 06:14 pm, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cassie have a look at the nylon spud that releases the catch , if it hasn't been lubed for a while it can get an edge in it and not release , try and see if it has this catch point on it , you can file it out or also try some Lanolin lubricant on it .
As to the fuel issue , when was the last time you had a new filter installed ?
Also take care with repeated starting in short succession as it will richen up and this might be the fuel smell?
Does having a full tank make any difference ?
Aaron Mead
Goo Roo
NT
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Tom Richards
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nsw
V8

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Wednesday, September 23, 2009 - 08:30 am, by:  Tom Richards (Tomr) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cassie in the diagnostic port, put a shorting link between FP and B+. this bypasses the fuel pump ECU and runs the fuel pump at 12v.

if this fixes the start problem, replace the ecu.


do a search on fuel pump ecu, it is a common problem with soarers
Cassie Baxter
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Qld
V8 Celsior

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Friday, September 25, 2009 - 08:01 am, by:  Cassie Baxter (Cass_cel) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi guys thanks for your feedback. I haven't done much testing yet but I will over the weekend. I did however try to unlock the boot lock but that didn't seem to work.

I've had the car since January and have not put a new filter on it (I've put an oil filter but nothing to do with the fuel).

I think having a full tank may increase the petrol smell (you can smell it more outside the car then in but if the car has been sitting for awhile is travels inside the car). I filled it up last night and realised my cap doesn't seem to click when I close it anymore so the smell may be contributing from that. Ryan do you happen to have a fuel cap by any chance?

I will also run the diagnostic on it also. I did one for my TRC light just recently...which went away and is now back.....Celsiors...I don't have a clue what they're doing half the time.

But anyways, will have a closer look this weekend at your suggestions and let you know. Thanks again really appreciate it!
Cassie Baxter
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Qld
V8 Celsior

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Wednesday, September 30, 2009 - 08:25 am, by:  Cassie Baxter (Cass_cel) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi All,

Just an update. I'm still yet to get the boot to work but I can hold off on that one.

For some unknown strange reason my car seems to have fixed itself. On the weekend my suspension was playing up and my 'Normal' suspension light was blinking and I couldn't change the height on my height controller. It did this for about a day (even after turning off the car and on several times that day) then stopped and rectified itself the following day. My TRC light that used to come on everytime I drove it has now not appeared for a few days and my car seems to start fine....I have no idea if this is a coincidence or my car just has a mind of its own!

I tried to do the diagnostics but I could not find where to put the shorting link. I assumed that I would find it under the boot lock but I couldn't find FP and B+. Is there another diagnostics port in the engine bay somewhere?

I assume something in my car is playing up but I'm not sure what controls the TRC, the height and the fuel.

O and my car also does not smell like fuel anymore! Seriously, this car needs some talking to haha!
Joshua Baldwin
Tinkerer
victoria
ucf-11 1uz-fe v8

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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 05:27 pm, by:  Joshua Baldwin (Celsior101) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cold start valve is stuck on causing overfueling to motor when it has already warmed up, making it idle rough, so in the mornings like you explained it runs fine but after work it does not run very well is due to this problem how do i know? well the same thing happened to me and i fixed it and everything is all good
Joshua Baldwin
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victoria
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Wednesday, November 04, 2009 - 05:32 pm, by:  Joshua Baldwin (Celsior101) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

also with your boot release it sounds like it you could have broken the electric solianoid inside the boot release switch

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