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Jarrod Gwynne
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Celsior V8

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Tuesday, August 17, 2010 - 08:32 am, by:  Jarrod Gwynne (J_man) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys
I will be using my celsior to tow my Ke70 to the occasional track day, I'm just wondering what suspension people have used when towing. My problem is my L/H rear airbag leaks slowly when the car is switched off at normal height, since the car is 20 years old should i just replace both rear air struts or remove the air suspension all together and put in new spring and shocks? any advice would be appreciated.

Cheers
Jarrod
Hugh Cansdell
Tinkerer
QLD
V8 Celsior

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Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 12:36 pm, by:  Hugh Cansdell (Whooby) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Springs and Shocks or aftermarket air struts.
They weren't designed to have a tonne or so bouncing on the rear end. Factory bags wouldn't last long I don't think.
Ryan Rankovic
Goo Roo
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

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Thursday, August 19, 2010 - 05:49 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Other people on the forum seem to be able to tow just fine on airbags.

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/285/309679.html?1265959166

Theres a pic somewhere on here of a z31 towing another z31 with no issues.
Jarrod Gwynne
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Celsior V8

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Saturday, September 11, 2010 - 05:45 pm, by:  Jarrod Gwynne (J_man) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for the link, I decided on new OEM airbags/Struts for the rear. I have just fitted them, the car feels great and no more waiting for the car to pump up of a morning. I got them through Rory at Rutherford & Bond Toyota in NZ by far the cheapest they were $1089aus for the pair delivered, apparently there was a price rise early this year of about $100nz per strut. Next on the list is a custom towbar.
Rich O'neil
DieHard
Queensland
90 Celsior

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Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 05:47 am, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jarrod I have a towbar for sale if you want it , I'm pretty sure it's a Hayman Reese , asking $250.00 .
James Walker
TryHard
VIC
V8

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Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 05:56 pm, by:  James Walker (Jimmywalker) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is the tow bar made to fit a celsior? I take second dibs on it Rich
Rich O'neil
DieHard
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90 Celsior

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Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 08:48 pm, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes it came off a Celsior , professionally made , if Jarrod doesn't want it you have next shot James .
Jarrod Gwynne
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Sunday, September 12, 2010 - 09:09 pm, by:  Jarrod Gwynne (J_man) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

all good mate, james can have it. me and a mate have started building one for my car.
James Walker
TryHard
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Monday, September 13, 2010 - 08:14 pm, by:  James Walker (Jimmywalker) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

can you get a freight cost to ballarat VIC 3350 if we can get it here cheap ill take it
Fran Valdivia
DieHard
Wollongong NSW
Celsior

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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 11:13 am, by:  Fran Valdivia (Silvasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Can I put my hand up too, if all the other sales/offers fall thru, I'll be interested in the towbar aswell Rich.

And sorry to steal your post Jarrod.

I have coilovers in mine, and if I have a car load of bodies, i bottom out.

Mine is set up to be a softer ride than normal when using coilovers.

I guess it doesn't help much, but if you consider going the coilovers, get them set up so that you can tow, without losing too much of the comfort, and jarring your spine when passing over painted road lines when the rear is not loaded.

The other thing that I also understand is that most towbars will only handle so much weight pushed down on the neck.
So when you load a trailer, the weight distribution should be equal over the wheels of the trailer.
You'll know this when you lift the hitch and you dont bust your balls, the front of the trailer should be light to lift, even with a huge load, kind of like a see saw effect.
I understand that towbars have their strength in the pulling of the load, ie the horizontal strain, not the vertical weight.

I hope this makes sense.

Anyway is the towbar still available? LoL
James Walker
TryHard
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V8

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Tuesday, September 14, 2010 - 12:04 pm, by:  James Walker (Jimmywalker) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm still getting the tow bar Fran,
Fran Valdivia
DieHard
Wollongong NSW
Celsior

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Wednesday, September 15, 2010 - 11:53 pm, by:  Fran Valdivia (Silvasoarer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No worries James
Just planting a seed in case all others fail to come to fruition
Cheers

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