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Aaron Mead
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NT
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Sunday, February 08, 2009 - 01:42 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Okay, so the alternator is dead me thinks.


Drove to the bottle shop, started getting that 2500rpm rev and down thingy when in park or neutral. Then the bastard cut out on the way home.

Time for a new alternator.
Andrew Ferres
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Monday, February 09, 2009 - 02:41 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah, I remember getting 4 lights coming up on mine when my alternator failed.

The cat light (stinky hot dog) and the batt light are def two of them, but I couldn't remember the others.
Ryan Seddon
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Victoria
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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 06:52 pm, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm recently getting similar symptoms with my car but I only get 2 warnings the park break light and the trc light that appears in the middle of the speedo. It will come on at low speeds then shut off when I'm cruising the trc light will only come on after the hand brake light has? Anyone else had a similar problem?
Andrew Ferres
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Tuesday, February 10, 2009 - 07:32 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The handbrake light also doubles up as the 'low brake fluid' light. Check to make sure the brake fluid isn't low first.
Ryan Seddon
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Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 04:11 pm, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I checked for error codes on my car and I got 1 with the trc light, code 52 which from my searching seems to lead back to no 1 knock sensor what does that mean? I've heard it's a big job to get to as well. Another weird issue that only started happening when I got the error lights was the rear airbags would deflate when left sitting for more than 8hrs but the weird things is it doesn't do it all the time, i've left the car for longer recently and it's stayed level, makes me think it's something other than a leak. It's always park on level surfaces as well.
Andrew Ferres
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Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 04:29 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The TRC light will only flash TRC errors.
Likewise the Check Eng will flash engine errors.
OD OFF light will flash auto errors
Cruise light will flash cruise control errors.
etc.

Bridge TE1 and E1 and the CEL and OD OFF light will flash (the TRC light shouldn't flash until you bridge a different pin to E1, TC from memory).

If the CEL has flashed 52, then yes the knock sensors are a bitch to get to.
Ryan Seddon
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Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 05:02 pm, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I checked Te1 to E1 first and got no codes then I did Tc to E1 and the trc light flash 5 then 2 does that still mean knock sensors?
Andrew Ferres
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Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 05:12 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah, that means the traction control has a problem.

I don't know where to find out the traction control codes though.

Its a pretty simple system too, it just looks at the wheel sensors (which the ABS also looks at, and as such I would expect it to throw an ABS code aswell), the ecu, and the stepper motor/2nd TPS on the throttle body.
Ryan Seddon
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Thursday, February 12, 2009 - 06:04 pm, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm seems to be related back to the brake fluid warning I was getting with the hand break light
http://us.lexusownersclub.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=46619 I do know I am due soon for the rear brake pads perhaps I'm due earlier than I thought, or I've been braking too hard!

Anyone have any insight on the airbag problem I was getting? I didn't get any airbag errors when I did the diagnostic tests.
Ryan Seddon
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Friday, February 13, 2009 - 04:48 pm, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here's a picture of the dash when the lights are on.

Upload


Anyone had these lights come on while they were driving?
Andrew Ferres
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Friday, February 13, 2009 - 05:12 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Have you checked the brake fluid ?
Ryan Seddon
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Monday, February 16, 2009 - 08:13 pm, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah the levels look ok does look dirty though so I'm gonna get it flushed and have the front brake pads replaced that should hopefully fix any of the problems.
Andrew Smith
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Monday, February 16, 2009 - 08:32 pm, by:  Andrew Smith (Bt1323) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

be careful bleeding the brakes just gravity bleed them, dont pump the pedal you could make your master itself and they aren't cheap, i had to replace mine because i was driving and it sunk to the floor
Aaron Mead
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 05:23 am, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sweet! Got my alternator rebuilt- PS fluid not the cause of the destruction thankfully. $280 for a warranted rebuild here in darwin, including having it beefed up to 145 amps. (new fuseable link installed)....I love learning. Especially that those fuses are bolted in with an 8 and 10mm bolt. Totally maggoted the 120 amp one trying to pull it out with a pair of snap ring pliers....derrr :-)

Air con is ice cold again, no more lights on the dash, 15v across the battery terminals (measured with a $17 multimeter) - Even the battery managed to take a charge. Drive belt was on its last legs too- all crackly.
Aaron Mead
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Friday, February 20, 2009 - 05:28 am, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Andrew Smith wrote on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 08:32 pm:

be careful bleeding the brakes just gravity bleed them, dont pump the pedal you could make your master •••• itself and they aren't cheap, i had to replace mine because i was driving and it sunk to the floor




Does this happen due to the master cylinder piston hitting the 'lip' in the cylinder and destroying the seal? I've been told that on cars with many km's the master cylinder develops a bit of a lip from the constant repetitive braking- i.e. wearing the master cylinder down; then, when you pressure bleed them with your foot, becuase you are able to push the pedal a lot further you hence push the piston into an unworn part of the master cylinder, hitting the lip and causing the fluid to go behind the piston?
Ryan Seddon
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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 08:31 am, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Andrew Smith wrote on Monday, February 16, 2009 - 08:32 pm:

be careful bleeding the brakes just gravity bleed them, dont pump the pedal you could make your master •••• itself and they aren't cheap, i had to replace mine because i was driving and it sunk to the floor




The tutorial on the
lexls site says to pump the brakes to drain the fluid, should I tell the mechanic to gravity drain it?
Andrew Smith
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Tuesday, February 24, 2009 - 05:45 pm, by:  Andrew Smith (Bt1323) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well if you want a new master cylinder then do it the lexls way, to gravity bleed it takes 10 mins more no biggy, Aaron its like not bending your knee for 1 year then having to bend it it doesnt really like doing it
Ryan Seddon
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Monday, March 02, 2009 - 06:53 pm, by:  Ryan Seddon (Ahrjay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So I had the brake pads replaced but the actual warning lights were because my brake lines on the front were leaking, the code 52 I got on the trc light was indicating that the brake fluid level was falling. Had new ones put in and that fixed the problem.
David Barnes
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Tuesday, March 03, 2009 - 07:03 am, by:  David Barnes (Toyota_celsior) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aaron: you said "15v across the battery terminals (measured with a $17 multimeter)"

That is far to much voltage (Should be 14v at very most), Id be checking that with another volt meter or taking your new alternator back to where you got it from and get them to check the regulator, 15v's is way out of specification. You will kill your battery by over charging it and many other things. Possibly because your battery was probley dead flat It may of punched out 15v but now that your battery is charged back up, redo your voltage check if it is still 15v then your gonna have problems.

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