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Brett Cashmore
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Celsior C-Spec

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Reg: 07-2005

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Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 03:25 pm, by:  Brett Cashmore Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My local compliance company (Autoworx) claim that the Celsior already has intrusion bars in the doors from Japan, is this correct?
I was originally told that the car needs intrusion bars to be fitted during compliance (15yr+).
Which is correct?
Peter Scott
Tinkerer
Active V8

Posts: 32
Reg: 08-2005

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Saturday, August 20, 2005 - 09:29 pm, by:  Peter Scott Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes they have little ones that don't comply with Aust ADRs. If you can get the engineer to write a letter saying they comply then no worries. But he won't. The Soarer has a whopping big intrusion bar - a big pipe. The Celsior has little pressed steel bars that don't meet ADRs.
Karl Hardy
Tinkerer
TT and V8 and Non Tbo

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Sunday, August 21, 2005 - 11:58 am, by:  Karl Hardy Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

There is a C type section running from front to back on each door. You need to have either these removed and I believe its a 75x25 section welded at both ends installed or a section inserted into the c section and tac welded to it and welded at both ends to suit engineers specs..At the end of the day if the Engineer OK's it should be fine.. If the Jap pressed section has been passed i believe it's incorrect...I had a celsior with 1 door replaced from a 94..that door had a big bar like a soarer..
Blair Walsh
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Celsior

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Reg: 08-2005

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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 09:55 pm, by:  Blair Walsh Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was told it was a bit of a gamble of which Celsiors had them and those that did'nt, the workshop that complied car at the time said they had done 8 Celsiors and 3 of them needed to have side intrusion bars fitted, thankfully mine did'nt need to have it done.
Don Bagnall
Moderator
GT4.0 V8

Posts: 477
Reg: 05-2005

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Monday, August 22, 2005 - 09:58 pm, by:  Don Bagnall Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blair........hope your stay is a long one.......cheers mate.

Sam Ferguson
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South Australia
Celsior

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Reg: 02-2006

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Tuesday, September 05, 2006 - 07:47 pm, by:  Sam Ferguson (Lexrsk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a little bit a info for you toyota/lexus used the same doors world wide ie 1 door suits all markets. depending what state the car is complied in depends on what changes are need to be done.
Ryan Posselt
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NSW
Celsior V8

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Reg: 08-2006

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Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 04:36 pm, by:  Ryan Posselt (Yakusaryan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NSW - My car was complied with out and modifications to Side intrusion bars (complied feb 2006)
Rich O'neil
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Queensland
90 Celsior

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Reg: 05-2006

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Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 04:55 pm, by:  Rich O'neil (Kiwiinaus) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

QLD : My car was also complianced with standard intrusion bars , is a 90 model though , don't know if that makes any difference but I was told the 89 models were different ?
Stephanie Friel
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NSW
V8 and 3L T

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Wednesday, September 06, 2006 - 05:21 pm, by:  Stephanie Friel (Celsiorchick) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My Celsior was complianced without modifications being made to the doors. The engineer just assumed it had intrusion bars there without even checking.
Justin Leafe
Tinkerer
Queensland
Celsior

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Reg: 09-2005

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Thursday, September 07, 2006 - 09:03 am, by:  Justin Leafe (Dust) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mine is an 89, didn't have to have intrusion bars modified, maybe my compliance guy was lazy.
Richard Baird
TryHard
Perth, WA
Toyota Echo

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Friday, September 08, 2006 - 11:20 pm, by:  Richard Baird (Richo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

In WA they will pass a UCF11 without mods in the doors....

Plus the seat belts don't need to be changed.....
Sam Ferguson
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South Australia
Celsior

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Saturday, September 09, 2006 - 10:42 am, by:  Sam Ferguson (Lexrsk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

different states different requirments. in south aust the engineer is required to keep photo's of the bars fitted with his paperwork. Same as if i was to buy a celsior that is registared in wa or qld, it would have to be reassesed for south aust, so if there is any changes that have not been done they will then have to be done before registration can be changed.
And it is not that the doors do not meet the aus standards, because they met the requirments for the year that it was manafactured. In some states they require that the car meet the current standards.

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