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Samuel Mitchell
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NSW
Commodore V6 (Curently For Sale)

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 05:19 pm, by:  Samuel Mitchell (Spac_sam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Hey all, My name is Sam, im from Sydney and I currently own a Holden Commodore which I'm in the process of selling due to the boost bug. and i have so many questions to ask.

I have a few replacement cars in mind and Ive been a fan of soarers for a long time. Other options include R32 GTST, S13 Silvia and the Subaru Liberty/Legacy RS.

Going by my budget i can only get an auto 91-93 Soarer (i'll learn to deal with it). Im not sure wether to go TT or V8. Has anybody driven a 3.0 N/A or are they a waste of time?

Cheers in advance,
Sam
Leon Wright
Tinkerer
WA
V8 UZZ31

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 05:36 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I've got a 91 and I'm quite happy with it!

Never driven the TT doesn't refer to a 3.0 N/A its a Twin Turbo :-) I didn't think you could get an N/A Soarer, i may be wrong though! I wanted a V8 so didn't look much into the TT.

Generally speaking, the TT's go harder (according to the TT boys anyway... ) and the V8s have more Luxury features. The V8s have a lot of low down torque, where as the TTs have an explosive amount of power after boost kicks in, never actually driven a TT myself, but from what I've been told!

Depends on what model you want and what features you actually want. There is lots of info on the site, have a look around, do your research and you will be happy with what you buy.

PS. Great idea getting rid of that holden...
Jordon Codd
Tinkerer
W.A
Soarer TT

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 05:59 pm, by:  Jordon Codd (Soarermad) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
yea great move dude i have a tt soarer and its an amazing car im never going to turn back and it is powerful even when its stock so i personally would go for the soarer than the nissan and such and once you start doing these cars up you wont stop trust me, well let us all know what you get and dont forget the pictures and welcome man
Callum Finch
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT & Corolla

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 06:31 pm, by:  Callum Finch (Sigeneat) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Leon, jzz31 is a 2jz-ge motor. Basically the engine you get in the NA supras! 3L I6.

Welcome Samuel. If you are after reasons PRO buying a Soarer you have come to the right place! ;D

Lots of new owners or those interested in buying a Soarer have asked the same questions and had the same answers time and time again. If you do a search for the threads you will turn up a goldmine of usefull info including what will break, what to look for when shopping etc.
It will work out better than waiting for answers if you asked them here ;D

Good luck mate!
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 06:54 pm, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
There is a Soarer cruise this Saturday in ACT which is only a few hours from you:
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/287/97776.html?1159266056
and one near Sydney on 29 October
http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/287/100683.html?1159336625

If you can get along to one of those you can crawl over the cars and talk to owners

Just park the Commodore somewhere else
Vinh Bui
DieHard
NSW
94 UZZ31 (V8) / 96 JZZ30 (TT)

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 07:05 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Samuel, the N/A Soarer owners will tell ya that the 3.0L engine is pretty responsive down low. I own both the V8 and the TT. Whatever Soarer you decide on will ultimately be up to what sort of car you're after. The TT is the sporty one with an endless list of possibilities when it comes to mods, whilst the V8 is the very comfortable luxury cruiser.
What you'll find is that one Soarer will not be the same as another Soarer. There were a whole bundle of options that were originally offered with the car and not all Soarers will come with every option available. Welcome and good luck with your search mate.

P.S. Nissan's suck.
Samuel Mitchell
Newbie
NSW
Commodore V6 (Curently For Sale)

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 07:33 pm, by:  Samuel Mitchell (Spac_sam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Thanks for the warm welcome guys

Vinh Bui wrote on Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 07:05 pm:

Whatever Soarer you decide on will ultimately be up to what sort of car you're after. The TT is the sporty one with an endless list of possibilities when it comes to mods, whilst the V8 is the very comfortable luxury cruiser



Im after a combination of the 2, how are both cars when it comes to fuel consumption?

Ive got the forced induction bug so i guess ill go turboed, But ive always wanted a V8 and id like leather interior. and as long as it has a sunroof ill be :-)
Ollie Ernst
DieHard
ACT
UZZ31 Soarer V8 Limited & UCF20 Lexus LS400

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:03 pm, by:  Ollie Ernst (Oli_g) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Welcome Sam.

If you could make it to the Soarer meet in Canberra on the weekend you could have a squiz at ours. 91 V8 Limited with the lot (including leather and sunroof - check out my profile for all the details) plus a few performance mods and a REALLY sexy exhaust note. All the usual Soarer niggles fixed, and always serviced by the best Soarer mechanic in Oz. It goes up for sale on the weekend.
Don Bagnall
Moderator
New Zealand
I have WAY less Soarers than Hayden :-(

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:14 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Hey Sam, a big ALSC to Soarer Central.

And if ya can get ya butt down to Canberra at the weekend, make SURE you check Ollies Ltd out.......it is El Minto, with nothing to spend as Ollie's a fusspot with his cars, has ALL the worthwhile options including the relatively RARE & desirable colour reversing camera option.......Noice!
Vinh Bui
DieHard
NSW
94 UZZ31 (V8) / 96 JZZ30 (TT)

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:25 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Samuel, fuel consumption on both cars are very similar as long as you are friendly with the pedal mate. I've done 750km's in the TT (Melbourne to Sydney) but generally get 500-600km's around twon. The V8 is eerily similar to the TT.
If you decide to go for a TT, make sure the KM's are not too high (i.e. anything over 120,000km's) since the factory turbos tend to give up anytime after that. Beware though, there are stories floating about with Soarer odometer's being wound back. Hell, you might get lucky and score a Torsen LSD and steel wheel turbos (very unlikely) along with the car :-)
And if you decide to go for a V8, make sure you go for the UZZ31 GT Limited. This model should have:
  • Height adjustable airbag suspension
  • EMV screen
  • Traction Control
  • TEMS
  • Leather Seats
  • Supersonic Mirrors
  • Heated Seats
  • And.. maybe some more stuff
But that should basically cover it. Beware though, the older models (91-93) will most likely have electronic failures and there'll be lots of fiddling around to fix these inconveniences.
Leon Wright
Tinkerer
WA
V8 UZZ31

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:50 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Yes the V8s are very classy and smooth. I love mine... possibly a little too much

... I really need to get a girlfriend don't I

.....

I thought that was the case Callum, but I thought'd I'd leave that info to one you TT boys!
Samuel Mitchell
Newbie
NSW
Commodore V6 (Curently For Sale)

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 08:58 pm, by:  Samuel Mitchell (Spac_sam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
wont be able to make the meet. going to toyotafest in syd. I've found a 1991 Soarer with 180k on the clock with rebuilt turbos with steel wheels already done and sunroof. not sure if it has the torsen lsd. guy is asking $9500 just reduced to $9000 today. or theres a 94 3.0 in mullimbimby 160k owned buy an old guy for $8800. Hoping my VS sells this week so i can go have a look at some. what else do i need to look for?
Jeff Smith
DieHard
NSW
TT Limited :-) equiped toyota torsen diff

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 Wednesday, September 27, 2006 - 10:37 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Samuel,The TT over the NA would be a good choice but If you are a v8 man testdrive them both before you dive in.The v8 is a cruiser and the TT is a toy.The question is "what is the preferred ride" Boost or rumble?
I owned a toyota hilux before my TT,I will tell you "don't hesitate"! These cars TT or v8 are a pleasure to drive and a lot off fun.I will find it hard to give it up.My 1st choice was a v8 but I test drove a TT and found this was the car for me.So the choice is up to you! Good luck!
Scott Ferguson
TryHard
Alberta
Soarer GTT-L

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 Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 12:28 am, by:  Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Well i'll put in my $0.02 (plus tax) right now. Now that you have posted here you've pretty much doomed yourself to an addiction to all that is Soarer. So just forget about the other car options that you were thinking about.

I have a 91 TT and even in full stock format it's a decently quick car. There are a lot of options along the upgrade path and with just an intake mod called the BFI, which involves modifying the cars existing airbox; and some exhaust work you will greatly increase the performance and appeal of this car.

The performance mods will never stop until you do. You can go as far as you want to.

Visually let's face it, the soarer is one of the more sexy and beautiful cars out there despite the fact that the main design is 15 years old. Toyota was far ahead of it's time in the design of this car. That already amazing look is also fairly easy to enhance with quite a few kits or even just rims and lowering the stock coilovers(on a TT, airbags on some of the V8's and even the rare active suspension uzz32).

In my most humble and honest opinion you are now hooked and must relegate yourself to a life of addiction. To the soarer.
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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 Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 06:57 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
I own a '96 3.0, and my previous car was a '91 V8. I've also driven several stock or near stock TT's.

All three cars are great, and it really depends on what you like as to what you buy. If you like boost, then go for the TT, no doubt about it. The 3.0 is a fantastic car, but if you want to turbo charge it, you will spend a lot of money, and you'll probably do better with a TT, even if you want to drop a 2JZ-GTE engine into it it might still be a better option, as it has better brakes as standard than the 3 litre.

Personally I don't at all regret buying my 3 litre, it's decently quick and fairly economical - but I'm not much for turbos (I'd probably go supercharger if I ever decide to do mine)
Graham Dollisson
DieHard
QLD
GTTL Morris Marina P76

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 Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 08:37 am, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Matthew Sharpe wrote on Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 06:57 am:

I'd probably go supercharger if I ever decide to do mine


I like your thinking Matthew
Samuel Mitchell
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NSW
Commodore V6 (Curently For Sale)

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 Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 07:00 pm, by:  Samuel Mitchell (Spac_sam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
thanks matt for your input ive been wanting to hear from 3L owners. looks like ill have to test all 3 cars before making my decision.
Leon Wright
TryHard
WA
V8 UZZ31

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 Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 08:18 pm, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Probably a good idea if your unsure which way you wanted to go.

Choice was easy for me, the V8 satisfied my requirements:
  • V8
  • Jap
  • Toyota
  • Luxurious
  • Gadgets
  • Leather
  • V8... o did i already mention that
George Funa
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NSW
Soarer TT

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 Thursday, September 28, 2006 - 10:58 pm, by:  George Funa (Fun001) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Samuel I drive a tt and love it. My best mate owns a v8 and it is a great car. Judging from your other options you were thinking of getting, the tt might be best suited to you. Best thing to do is to go drive all three (v8,tt and 3ltr) and then make your decision. Make sure the interior is in good condition. Look for wear and tear on the steering wheel, seats(if going with leather), gear stick etc. Also keep an eye out for the crack in the dash just above the front middle air vents. Soarers are top cars and you won't get a better car for the money
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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 Friday, September 29, 2006 - 06:26 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Yup, my decision when replacing the V8 came down to low KM's, later models, and with petrol prices, better economy, thus the 3 litre fitted me well.

I remember when I first took my current car for a test drive, it was a very wet day but I was plesently surprised by how well it responded to the throttle. Much better than the '94 3.0 I had test driven earlier in the day, which was very tired.
Samuel Mitchell
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NSW
Commodore V6 (Curently For Sale)

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 Friday, September 29, 2006 - 06:06 pm, by:  Samuel Mitchell (Spac_sam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
im not fussed about the steering wheel. i got a lovely momo given to me for my 21st to put on the car. are the boss kits redily available?
Don Bagnall
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New Zealand
I have WAY less Soarers than Hayden :-(

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 Friday, September 29, 2006 - 06:21 pm, by:  Don Bagnall (Baggs) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
NO!
Samuel Mitchell
Tinkerer
NSW
Commodore V6 (Curently For Sale)

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 Friday, September 29, 2006 - 06:43 pm, by:  Samuel Mitchell (Spac_sam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
damn it. this is one of my major swinging points too. if i cant put my momo its a no no.
Leon Wright
TryHard
WA
V8 UZZ31

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 Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 03:08 am, by:  Leon Wright (Techman) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Yeah there is the issue of the $10 000 fine for the owner and the $10 000 fine for the fitter.

Airbags, such wonderful inventions...
Daniel Clarke
DieHard
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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 Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 06:23 am, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Early model TT"s dont have Airbags.. And you can get Boss Kits with the Cruise crontrol on it for after market wheels:-)

Looks like ya gotta get an early TT:-)
Samuel Mitchell
Tinkerer
NSW
Commodore V6 (Curently For Sale)

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 Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 09:00 am, by:  Samuel Mitchell (Spac_sam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
what year did airbags come in
David Vaughan
Goo Roo
ACT
V8 Ltd manual

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 Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 09:37 am, by:  David Vaughan (Davidv) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
By 1994 they had one on the driver's side only. They may actually have come in earlier than that.
Samuel Mitchell
Tinkerer
NSW
Commodore V6 (Curently For Sale)

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 Saturday, September 30, 2006 - 01:08 pm, by:  Samuel Mitchell (Spac_sam) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
my budget only allows a 1991 or 92 model.

getting rid of my commodore is becomming a nightmare!!! if i reduce the price any more the soarer is way out of my reach
Matthew Sharpe
Goo Roo
North Island
JZZ31

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 Monday, October 02, 2006 - 07:29 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)
Well my JZZ31's a '96 model and no airbags

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