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Richard O'Neill
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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 12:17 pm, by:  Richard O'Neill (Rich85) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks for those before and after pics of plastx otherwise i wouldnt have bothered with it bought some today works very well
Walter Gillmore
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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 04:33 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

no worries mate :-) thought it might clear up some people's concerns :-)
Kyle Wathen
DieHard
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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 05:20 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Should come up nice with a bit of love!

Might be just me but that dash cluster looks like its from a pre-1994 model?
Ali Saeed
DieHard
WA
V8 Limited

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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 05:27 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so did this happen to you after you bought it? or was it in this condition when you bought it?
Walter Gillmore
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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 06:42 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

this is the condition it is in. i have only just purchased it.

i hope its not a pre 94 one... that would mean that the k's on the engine arent real..
Walter Gillmore
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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 06:58 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

found a pic of a 91 dash.. looks different the gear selection things are where the clock is on mine.


Mike Beck
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New Zealand
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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 07:58 pm, by:  Mike Beck (Gold_40gt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looking good Walter.

Nice to see your bringing your Soarer buck up to its former glory! :-)
Ali Saeed
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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 08:40 pm, by:  Ali Saeed (Ali) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

lol my 91 had 98000km on it when i bought it about 4 months ago, and they were pretty genuine..so you never know..i think the 94 dash had outside temp displayed next to the time..
Tim Ross
Goo Roo
Qld
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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 08:46 pm, by:  Tim Ross (Retox) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

walt... what condition are the seats and steering wheel in.. thats another sign of high K's if it has had them
Walter Gillmore
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Saturday, August 08, 2009 - 09:12 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

steering wheel is pretty damn good and so are the seats. just has a lot of dust settle on it and bit of moisture. nothing damaging tho.
Walter Gillmore
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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 02:53 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok so ive decided im going to post up the car pc build in this section, cbf starting another thread and its easy enough to link people to anything relevant i may have in this thread :-)

so here we go..
1. inspiration for this build came from an idea quite sometime back, but after seeing the one for sale here on these forums that was built by justin i thought to myself.. hey! that aint so hard! so after a little stuffin around with trying to buy the one for sale i started out by finding a bit of 6mm aluminium and cut it to 18cm x 18cm ( just as justins build thread stated :-))

2. i then made a list of the things i would need/ like to have on this car pc.
- dual core power = atom 330 cpu
- decent motherboard with good amount of connections = intel with built in atom 330 cpu :-)
- touchscreen lcd = lilliput 7 inch touchscreen lcd eby701 np/c/t
- good psu to handle harsh auto environment = m2 mini itx psu
- bluetooth = mini bluetooth 2.0 dongle
- decnet ram = 2gb 800mhz ram
- decent HDD = WD 250 2.5" HDD
- all peripherals must be sata or usb connection
- gps receiver = gps usb receiver baud rate 9800
- factory looking = bybyte liliput 7 inch lcd double din mount.
- dvd burner slot load = dual layer dvd durner slot load 12.5mm sata connetion
- vga connectors male and female and 16 core ribbon cable from jaycar :-) gotta love that 70% discount ;)

1st pic: here is the aluminium base cut and buffed with the motherboard already mounted. i cut the alum from the size stated in justins build 18cm x 18cm fits perfectly :-)

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2nd pic: to mount the board i simply placed the board on the aluminium and marked out the holes on the mobo with black marker and drilled them out with a 4.5mm drill bit. i then used some urethane nipples i had lying around. drilled them out with a 3mm bit and pushed them into the holes. i then used m3 screws and rubber grommets and washers and nuts to mount the board at the desired height.

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3rd pic: 2 gb of ramming power!

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4th pic: here is the base of the carpc next to the minidisc tv tuner that came out of the soarer. :-)

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Walter Gillmore
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TT JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:01 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

5th pic: i got impatient waiting for all the other bits and pieces to arrive so i mounted the hdd on the cpu fan and heatsink using some heat proof resin lattice

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6th pic: here is the little 60W psu i am no longer using. good little unit just not what i had in mind, came with the mobo and 2gb of ram and 250 gb hdd i bought:-)

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7th pic: all mounted ready to fire up and upload operating system and drivers and other softwares

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8th pic: fired up running windows 7 build 7022 to start with 32 bit. ran the 1280 x 768 23 inch fine.

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Walter Gillmore
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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:11 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

9th pic: base mounted under climate control total height of unit is 80mm :-) so just under a double dn size.

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10th pic: note where i had to cut out to allow all connections to be accessed.

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11th pic: other side. note how the sata connections are easily accessed and the 20 pin power connector.

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12th pic: dummy fitted into dash with usb hub connected, :-)

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Walter Gillmore
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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:15 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

13th pic: lilliput 7 inch touchscreen lcd vga input arrived :-)

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14th pic: touchscreen tested on carpc running 1024 x 768 resolution, milkdrop 2.0 at 50frames per second :-)

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15th pic: pulled apart after testing back view

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16th pic: front view

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Jol Alexander
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Vic
V8

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Reg: 07-2009

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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:27 pm, by:  Jol Alexander (Courage) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks pretty sweet. I follow everything except the power SUP.

Is 60Watts going to be enough to power screen as well as HDD + DVD? or are these all getting power from else were? Are you just finind a spare 12Volt and running them off in paralle?
Walter Gillmore
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TT JZZ30

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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:36 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

17th pic: here is the lcd mounted into the 20 gauge steel frame with infrared led re wired to allow it to be located next to the lcd in the frame. allows me to have full use of the remote for switching to front and rear video inputs ( for future night vision front camera and colour rear parking camera) and on/off duties.

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18th pic: the small profile vga connector i made up, we all know how big standard connectors are so there was no way in hell the standard plug was going to fit. ( cheers to justins build log for the heads up with clearances)

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19th pic: here it is!! all wired up running windows 7 build 7600 32bit :-) resolution is best left at 800 x 480 as it looks the best and is quite readable. i chose windows 7 as it has touchscreen input built into it, so onscreen keyboard and all that jazz. :-)

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i have also mounted the 150W m2 psu, wired a momentary action switch for manual on/off, tested the ignition switched positive, spliced the lcd into the 12V rail off the psu so its all internally powered. ran it all overnight with music pumping and milkdrop 2 stressin the cpu, woke up this morning and it was still runnin with no hiccups. also off the psu i have spliced the remote amplifier on ground into the psu 12v ground set the jumper settings on the psu to off delay 5 sec and hardoff 45 seconds (off delay = how long the psu waits to start shutdown procedure on carpc once ignition is turned off. hardoff = how long the psu waits until it cuts all power to all rails , 45 seconds is plenty of time for the carpc to shutdown. this feature ensures i wont come to a car with a dead battery :-) )

i also have a little sony box that came with the soarer that takes rca inputs and plugs into the standard toyota harness so i can still use the factory sound system.. for now :-)

im waiting on my spdif out connection to arrive and slot load dvd burner and also the refurbished climate control unit before i mount this in the car. once mounted in the car i will take more pics of it in action. i also have obd software for reading off the diagnostics port :-) digital gauges ftw!!!! not game to try the tuning software yet.
Walter Gillmore
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Tuesday, August 11, 2009 - 03:40 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)



i have also mounted the hdd under the mobo as its more stable. i found after giving the whole unit a few hard knocks to test it out the hdd when mounted in its previous location moved just enough to pop the heatsink off the cpu for a split second. not good. i used double sided tape to mount the hdd under the mobo upside down to allow the components to still be cooled. and the psu is also on double sided tape ( good that it insulates as well :-) ) thats on the north bridge chipset heatsink and on the serial port connector. all is good and solid. no movement :-)
David Grab
Goo Roo
SA
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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 01:02 am, by:  David Grab (Blastedbyasoarer) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Walter if you can make another one or start making them to sell i would be pretty damn interested.
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 06:08 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awesome write up.

Why do PC manufacturers still put parallel & serial ports on PC's? Makes no sense!
Walter Gillmore
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Wednesday, August 12, 2009 - 06:42 am, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks guys, i would like to start making them to sell but until i find another job, i cannot purchase the components to do so, i would sell them for 1100 or so. as soon as i get more funds then i shall let you know and ask for some specs you would want for your system :-)
Walter Gillmore
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 12:17 am, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

just loaded up nhl09 and f.e.a.r runs smoothly :-)
i underestimated this motherboards onboard video power :-)

loading up fifa 09 now see if it can handle it
Matthew Sharpe
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 05:53 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Onboard video 'aint too bad these days, mostly thanks to much faster DIMM's. VGA is kinda a pain though, you would think they would have started to phase it out now - would be great if they would put HDMI or mini DVI on low end motherboards.
Justin Cook
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 06:51 am, by:  Justin Cook (Justin) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Awesome mate, very impressed :-) I was always going to build another one :-) Was waiting to afford the lilliput screen that works in direct sunlight from carpc but they are 600US dollars!!!

The sunlight readability was a big killer for me :-)

Thanks for the kudos, and I like the aluminium idea. Also the lilliputs have changed, they had a whole bunch of buttons at the bottom before which required a whole bunch of stuffing around. Tried to put a DVD player in there, and I got it to work but was fiddly. Michael just filled that bit in when he got it off me, which was a better idea!

These atom mobo's getting me interested again :-)
Justin Cook
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 06:57 am, by:  Justin Cook (Justin) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Scratch that, 730US for a screen :-(
Walter Gillmore
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 08:10 am, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah the new led backlight and transflective coating on the screens make them expensive ( stuffs me how LED's are cheap as chips and a coating cant be too expensive ) they are a lower profile too and carry less heat. i think i'm just going to try and find an anti glare coating for my screen. although you can just buy the LED backlight board from mp3car.com to convert your old screen to the new LED backlight. but you'd still need to find an anti glare film or coating.

no worries about the kudos mate. if i hadnt seen yours then i would have put off building one, your build log helped a lot mate :-)

the lilliputs have the buttons on the side now. thats for the eby models. there are still the GL models that have the buttons underneath. both still have the ribbon cable and infrared led that needs to be relocated tho.

mobo's have come a long way in on board graphics power. i was just surprised how good this one was for 130 bucks! there are the new nvidia atom dual core mobo's out with nvidia chipsets and nvidia ion on board graphics, but they are around 450 new. that has hdmi and dvi out.

link is for LED backlight lilliput 09 model for 300 bucks
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Lilliput-7-619GL-70NP-C-T-LED-BACKLIT-VGA-Touchscreen_W0QQitemZ370129637673QQ cmdZViewItemQQptZComputer_Monitors?hash=item562d721129&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
Walter Gillmore
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 08:15 am, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

here is an nvidia ion mobo for 180!!!! wow!! should have gotten this one instead!!!
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Zotac-IONITX-B-E-Nvidia-ION-Intel-Atom-Fanless-Mini-ITX_W0QQitemZ110415627378 QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item19b548c472&_trksid=p3286.m63.l1177
Walter Gillmore
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 06:29 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok fifa 09 runs pretty well. a little laggy but nothing stupid and annoying. command and conquer kanes wrath works well too :-) installing nba 2k9 now.

need for speed most want/ undercover wouldnt play as it said i needed direct x 9c or higher which i have. so im thinking the file is corrupt. will try pro street next as well. hoping grid would work but something about shaders stopped that. lol.
Walter Gillmore
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Thursday, August 13, 2009 - 09:39 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

total opposite of what im doing!! but check this cashed up mad ****! wait a bit till the floor starts to unfold!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RqZsW-uU5B4&feature=related

holy wow i want one!!!
Matthew Sharpe
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Friday, August 14, 2009 - 07:10 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Wow, thats obscene.
Walter Gillmore
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Sunday, August 16, 2009 - 10:02 pm, by:  Walter Gillmore (Cl33pa) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok, so i received some bad news about my black beast yesterday. the guy i'm buying it from, his dad is the one actually selling the car but he is never around, so i direct my questions to his son.

ive let the guy know about my situation and he is only too happy to help me out a little. i have 300 to go with payments before its fully mine. but after he talked to his dad about my situation, his dad told him that i wont be able to get the car on the road unless it passes a malicious damage inspection. which costs 450. apparently he said he mentioned this to me, but i think otherwise as i questioned them about the car history before the purchase, i even checked on the net and annoyed them a bit with questions about its history. not once did i ever hear him mention this. so i'm a bit pissed off about this.

his son tho is willing to fork out the 450 and do the running around to get it rwc for me, and says i can pay him back when i can, i am thankful for this but as it was not outlined when i made the purchase, its kinda gettin on my nerves. the written receipt states that i bought the car in 'as is' condition so any argument i may have would be nullified. :-(

also found some signs of the car being taken on a joy ride by the hammer thug, front drivers guard, underneath just behind the wheel arch the panel has been pushed up and is full of dirt. nothing huuge but dis appointing nonetheless.

i fitted my headlights and high beams today, as well as test fitting of the car pc to make sure it fits without putting pressure on anything else. all is good :-), still trying to sort out the sound tho as there are wires spliced into just about every other wire where the previous stereo was, a hell of a lot cleaner to look at now.

1st pic: my hks filter! arrived last week. thanks joshua mate!

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2nd pic: mm mm brand spanky new :-)

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3rd pic: my boot struts also arrived last week. from ebay for 44 bucks :-) fitted in 5 mins. :-) came with good hand written instructions and two different types of ball joint head.

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4th pic: pic of the glove box lid i covered myself put back in. looks as good as factory and soo much softer :-)

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5th pic: pic of split from hammer thug on my dash

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6th pic: this is tims dash from the V8 sorra, i painted with satin black vinyl dye and sealed with tyre shine, came up really good, was a bit worried when after i painted it, the dye turned white, it was a cold night so i got the heater out and dried it with that. worked well but still had some white marks, tyre shine took it all out and the rough finish that it left. it is now smooth and sealed :-)

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7th pic: headlights and high beams in! bit of a mission, took most of today's time actually. 2 and a bit hours. i do have a question about the high beams, when i firts installed the lights, turned the lights on and flicked to high beams they came on, but i flicked to them again and they wouldnt come on!?? i read on the stalk that the settin is on 'auto' now am i correct in assuming that this soarer has a photo resistor diode thing that lets it know how much ambient light there is and therefore avoids the high beams coming on when its not dark enough???

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8th pic: replacement center garnish painted black already and sealed, not a bad job either :-) thanks ramyn mate! $10 for this :-) also retensioned the spring that opens the ashtray lid. nice and fast now :-)

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