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Muhammad Ali shahid
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Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 05:12 pm, by:  Muhammad Ali shahid (Sd_sig12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hello everyone
I am new member in this forum and my name is Ali .i recently bought V8 soarer and its Uzz32 (which is the most rare one ... i dont know anything at the time of buying this car )

now the problem is for RWC i need these things to be fix first
Lower Control Arm(left and right)
4 stuts (rare)
Power steering reack
Rear bushes
rear main seal
gear box mount
sump gasket

and please !! help me and tell me where to find parts ... i Am stuck :nworthy2:

ALI
Dan McColl
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Tuesday, March 06, 2012 - 07:36 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get onto Peter Taplin at
www.soarerparts.com.au I believe he also works at sports and luxury cars out ferntree gully way.

He is the expert down your way when it comes to UZZ32's.
Alistair Moorby
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Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 11:25 am, by:  Alistair Moorby (Aldmo87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just try ringing around wreckers. Your bound to find the parts you need eventually.

When you say lower control arms, do you mean just bushes? If so Peter Taplin is your man. Also for the rear bushes.

What about the power steering rack? Do you just need bushes? I bought some on eBay for $50, they are polyurethane ones but I can't tell the difference, and to be honest they are 100x better than my worn out ones.

If you can find out the part no. for the steering rack I may be able to get you ones.

In my opinion I would go to another mechanic.
What area are you in, I can recommend the guy I used for my Soarer roadworth about 3 months ago.

Also as others have suggested get cracking posting in the WTB section. You will probably find everything you need. The hardest will be 4 struts. But they can be rebuilt. Just do a search, apparently it costs about $80 per strut and you can do it yourself.
Muhammad Ali Shihad
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Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 12:23 pm, by:  Muhammad Ali Shihad (Sd_sig12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@Alistair Moorby
your reply give me the hope
according the mechanic
i need lower control arms and bushes
And i am in Burwood VIC. the car is at workshop so its hard to see part number.
and tell me how to contact peter Taplin ?

and which mechanic you recommend? which will not rip me off ?
Alistair Moorby
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Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 01:29 pm, by:  Alistair Moorby (Aldmo87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well I would say you don't need replacement arms. The UZZ32 arms are friggin heavy duty compared to the standard soarer ones.

Take your car home, don't leave it at that mechanic, just pay your $110 and go, you won't get it all fixed in a week anyway.

Also be prepared to have the car off the road for a month whilst you gather your parts.

Ask your mechanic these questions

What's wrong with the struts? Are they leaking? perhaps the pump that drives them is failing. You need to know.

What's wrong with the lower control arms?
(obviosuly bushes need replacing)

What's wrong with the power steering rack? just needs bushes?

Check out this link below to rebuild them.
http://www.lexusaustralia.org/Soarer%20Tech%20Files/uzz32_active_shock_rebuild.htm

Also check out ToyoDIY (google it), it lists all the part numbers for your car, every single thing.

Then try wreckers, online or if that fails Castle Hill Toyota (SA) will be able to get EVERYTHING you need. Just fill in the parts enquiry online, you will get a response the same day with the price shipped to your location. They will definately be able to get your Lower Control Arms, I know because I got a quote about 3 months ago.

My mechanic is in Epping VIC.
Northern Auto Tech - 8405 3888. He's not dodgy he is just honest and he was easy on me with my Soarer.

Just drive there and drop it off, It's a 3 minute walk to the station so you can catch the train home.

He is also open on Saturday morning and till about 6pm each night so you can drop the car off after work.

Be prepared to leave it there for a few days/weeks as you have quite a few parts you need to track down.

You can get a replacement steering rack from Rockauto.com, it's about $299 plus probably another $100 shipping, but if you only need bushes then your all good.

Peter Taplin is a member of this forum he makes bushes for Soarer's. You can't buy lower control arm bushes direct from toyota, you have to use either polyurethane ones (cheap, like $70 on eBay) or buy the whole arms.

His contact details are on the website someone posted above (www.soarerparts.com) he charges $55 each for bushes, just give him a call and tell him what your mechanic said and he will tell you how many you need. Probably 4.

He also sells rebuilt active struts for about $2000. So if your desperate and have the cash at least it's an option.

Try and rebuild yourself or buy some from a wreck.

And as I said above post in the WTB section with all the bits you need (after you speak to your mechanic about why certain parts need replacing).
Alistair Moorby
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Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 01:46 pm, by:  Alistair Moorby (Aldmo87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So

Steering rack $400 delivered from Rockauto.com

Steering rack bushes $50 + install $200 from eBay

Lower Control Arm Bushes $70 for polyurethane from eBay + $300 labour

Peter Taplin bushes (rubber and are much better) $200 + $300 labour from soarerparts.com

Control arms $300 each from Castle Hill Toyota $600 + $150 labour (these come with bushes so don’t need above)

Gearbox mount about $100 from Castle Hill Toyota, not sure about labour.

Roadworthy labour $110 you have already spent, so another $110.

Total is approx $1400 and that’s with polyurethane bushes and assuming you don’t need control arms.

Maybe $1700 if you need control arms.

It’s good to add it all up before you do it, that way you know how much your spending.
The money you spend here won't add much if anything to the resale value, it's all just regular maintence work that was never done.

If you think it’s too much, sell the car for what you bought it for on this site, someone will probably snap up a UZZ32.

Then go and buy something cheaper OR buy a Soarer that comes with a RWC.

I bought my Soarer for $6000, and have spent $2000 on it. There is about another $1000 to have it in really good nic or another $2000 for me to be really satisfied with it.
Dan McColl
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Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 06:04 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Alistair, You can't buy a steering rack from rock auto to suit UZZ32. '32 was never sold in the USA. It has a very different rack with interconnects and parts to work with the 4WS setup.

My advice, Ali, is to contact Peter Taplin via the soarer parts link I provided and talk to him about it. He is THE UZZ32 expert in Victoria (and probably Australia) He can supply parts as well as do the work you need done, and knows the car backwards.

Do yourself a favour and at the very least contact him.

UZZ32 is a totally different car to other cars and unless your mechanic knows about them it will cost you a bucketload and they will probably ruin the car.
Adam Lonergan
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Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 10:30 pm, by:  Adam Lonergan (Alchemistal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Drive/tow your 32 to Peter... look at one of his... decide if you want and can afford to continue down this path. Not the cheapest or easiest car to restore and run.

Listen to Dan...

$2k for bushes, mounts and donut
$2-4k for struts/fluids
$2k for leads, plugs, water pump, oxy sensors, belt, bearing (if you want to safe)
You're up for >$6k this year *IF* nothing breaks or is already broken and you can't do the work yourself.
Muhammad Ali Shihad
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Wednesday, March 07, 2012 - 11:54 pm, by:  Muhammad Ali Shihad (Sd_sig12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@Alistair Moorby
-I will ask again about lower control arms thats whats wrong
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-Tell me about struts?? what are these things related to active suspension rods?..If yes then right i am dont worry about that i can clear RWC without struts..so that can be done later
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- About the power steering rack..According to mechanic that its leaking very badly and also making weed noises at the time to starting that car

I will make a inquiry at Castle Hill Toyota (SA)


So lets see if i get the parts from there or not
Muhammad Ali Shihad
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 12:03 am, by:  Muhammad Ali Shihad (Sd_sig12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@ Alistar moorby
I think the best thing is to take the car back first and search for the parts first and then take it to mechanic ...
If i can i will happy to show the car to Peter Taplin.... i think he can guide me best!
I think i have a limit of 1500$... if everything can be fix under 1500 then i feel gud more then that will be no point to spend money on this car...

* and tell me .. can we fix lower control arm of UZZ31 to UZZ32 ?...they look same

Also i seen three cars UZZ31 And UZZ30 at clayton wreckers...but most of things gone
Muhammad Ali Shihad
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 12:06 am, by:  Muhammad Ali Shihad (Sd_sig12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@Dan McColl
thanks for your advice
@adam
To be honest , i think i am double minded :S
Muhammad Ali Shihad
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 12:16 am, by:  Muhammad Ali Shihad (Sd_sig12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

is there any other way to contact Peter Taplin because there is only e-mail address given on website ?
Michael Brogefjord
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 02:29 am, by:  Michael Brogefjord (Michaelb) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Mobile number seems to be listed on
http://soarerparts.com/contactus.asp
Alistair Moorby
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 11:06 am, by:  Alistair Moorby (Aldmo87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Now that some of the 32 owners have chimed in, it looks like it's a much more expensive process then I thought.

If the power steering rack is leaking badly, perhaps the seals can be changed? Making a funny noise shouldn't be a RWC factor.

Let us know how you go. BTW how much did you buy the car for?
Vincent Chan
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 11:40 am, by:  Vincent Chan (Vincent191) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Also let us know if Peter still have lower control arm bushes (front & rear)and steering rack bushes for a 31 and how much. I am looking to changing them.

Also opinion from those who have changed to the Urethane bushes?
Muhammad Ali Shihad
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 04:16 pm, by:  Muhammad Ali Shihad (Sd_sig12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

@ alistair
I spoke to the mechanic today
he will look again for power steering leaking
* for the lower control arm ..I JUST NEED BUSHES that IT ... looks like my mechanic does not want to work more.. maybe

and thanks again Alistair .. The Castle Hill Toyota (SA) alomost have all the parts and they give send me the prices also

JUST WANT TO ASK .. CAN WE INSTALL NORAMAL STUDS INSEAD OF ACTIVE ONES? IS THIS POSSIBLE?
Muhammad Ali Shihad
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 04:18 pm, by:  Muhammad Ali Shihad (Sd_sig12) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was bit busy today didt get the time to speak with peter... But again the main problem is ACTIVE SUSPENSION ... thats really expensive . is there any way that we can install normal fixed ones?
... anybody ?
Alistair Moorby
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 05:46 pm, by:  Alistair Moorby (Aldmo87) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dunno about the strut situation, there's no reason you couldn't I guess. Someone is selling some coilovers in the For Sale section for like $800, but height adjustable coilovers won't help your RWC.

Keep in mind replacing the suspension with generic stuff would probably cost $1000. Another $1000 could have you using the awesome active suspension. But then I see you're a student so every dollar counts.

I reckon just speak to Peter. Maybe find out from your mechanic what is wrong with the struts. If just one of them is leaking then it's not so bad.

Hard to imagine all of them leaking.
Adam Lonergan
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 08:33 pm, by:  Adam Lonergan (Alchemistal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Muhammad, yes you can install any number of lower quality, poorer performing suspension systems in an active and 'technically' own an active, but what's the point... might as well go and buy a UZZ30 in good condition and save your time and money.

Same as this guy, who 'technical' has a motor car... but probably should have bought a saddle...


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Dan McColl
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Thursday, March 08, 2012 - 08:42 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Amayama.com is a good place for parts. Very good pricing but overseas so you have to wait for delivery (2-4 weeks)

It's been done before to remove the struts and put normal coilover spring/damper units in, but it's sacrilige to destroy one of less then 500 remaining UZZ32's. If you want a car with springs then buy one already with springs.

Like was said, spend a little more than springs will cost to re-build the struts and you'll have a car that rides better than soft springs and handles better than stiff springs.
Matthew Sharpe
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Saturday, March 10, 2012 - 12:04 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you are a poor student, a Soarer is not the car for you - they are cheap to buy, but expensive to maintain properly. The UZZ32 is the most expensive to maintain so it's a double fail for a student.
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Monday, March 12, 2012 - 03:31 pm, by:  Vincent Chan (Vincent191) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I agree 100% with Matthew, owning a Soarer especially a 32 is a passion and not for those on a tight budget.

By the looks of things your $1500 budget may not be enough. I just found out I cannot get rear control arm bushes unless I buy the plastic ones.

To get the rubber ones I have to buy the whole rear control arms. That alone will cost me $1,000 supply and fitted.

And thanks also to Alister and Dan's very informative post.

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