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Justin Staier
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qld
v8 limited

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Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:20 pm, by:  Justin Staier (Psiuz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

gday all awesome forum i have uzz31 v8 lim bought it in 04 still stock apart from 18s dvd player and just fitted a Raptor blower should make around 8.5 psi wondering what piggybacks work good on v8 as i need fuel
Justin McLernon
TryHard
Western Australia
UZZ32

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Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:29 pm, by:  Justin McLernon (Zz32) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justo!

APS' Unichip is probably the most "tried and tested" piggyback and it can support a blower.

Expect to pay around $1400 fitted/tuned.
Justin Staier
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qld
v8 limited

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Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:46 pm, by:  Justin Staier (Psiuz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks justin just tryin to see what options i got so get best bang for buck this things guna pull hard when get fuel u got nice ride and sweet mods
Murray Shailer
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levin
v8

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Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 09:17 am, by:  Murray Shailer (Alleycat) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hi justin
i understand you can run up two 8psi without a piggyback
i have an eaton m90 running 6psi..which is plenty and am running standard ecu
why not run 6 or 8 psi and you wont have any problems....saves alot of hassle
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Justin Staier
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qld
v8 limited

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 02:26 am, by:  Justin Staier (Psiuz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

thanks for advice im pretty sure it pings with about 7 psi havnt driven for a few days
Peter Taplin
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Vic
UZZ32 V8 Supercharged

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 07:21 am, by:  Peter Taplin (Mrfourwd) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

http://soarercentral.com/sc-forum/messages/51876/52679.html?1142345426

This is a less expensive alternative gives you all the control, it is tried and tested now with great results on my Supercharged V8, you can also adjust the tune with a laptop yourself, the software and cable comes with the kit..

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Damien Smith
TryHard
NSW
Manual UZZ31

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 11:46 am, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Justin, is that a centrifugal blower? I saw pics of one from QLD on lextreme.com - is that yours? If so looks like a neat setup.
Benjamin Burgess
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NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 09:43 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm certain a Powermod piggy back will work no problem. There used quiet a lot on new ford boss engines and holden ls1. Checkout latest street machine, pretty certain there is a commodore ute in it called "LUNATI" that has a full built 383 stroker engine, big jets and a pro charger at 12psi and is making 600rwhp, and its running a PowerMod.
Justin Staier
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qld
v8 limited

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Wednesday, March 15, 2006 - 10:50 pm, by:  Justin Staier (Psiuz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks Benjamin
Yea Damien thats mine really stoked with it I'm going to change intake pipe so that it looks neat put plastics back in place like that one over the cruise control motor and install piggyback ? hope to have completed in 10 days some pics then
Damien Smith
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NSW
Manual UZZ31

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Thursday, March 16, 2006 - 08:51 am, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice work Justin - great to see something different.
Justin Staier
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qld
v8 limited

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 12:11 am, by:  Justin Staier (Psiuz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Update: Hope to have piggyback fitted and tuned by fri night all being well post some pics then of ride and eng bay
Damien Smith
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NSW
Manual UZZ31

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Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 09:15 am, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sweet - don't leave us hanging!
Justin Staier
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qld
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Thursday, March 23, 2006 - 10:36 pm, by:  Justin Staier (Psiuz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Here is some pictures of the Soarer which I hope is soon faster!!


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Justin Staier
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qld
v8 limited

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Friday, March 24, 2006 - 07:40 pm, by:  Justin Staier (Psiuz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK the faster bits pictures are here now. Moristech ECU (piggyback) is now on and going, injectors run out of steam real early. Showing 200 or so on the wheels, did see 240 momentarily but waaaayyyyyy too lean. Finding some injectors now




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Damien Smith
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NSW
Manual UZZ31

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 08:49 am, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Great work Justin. No intercooler yet? Do you plan to install one? You've got heaps of potential with that if you're cracking 200 already!
Justin Staier
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qld
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Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 11:31 am, by:  Justin Staier (Psiuz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Investigating exhaust system as well, didn't completely realise how restrictive it is.
Damien Smith
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NSW
Manual UZZ31

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 04:12 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get a set of extractors from Neil. He does 2 sizes - NA or Supercharged which have a slightly bigger diameter.

www.rushimports.com.au
Avin Luther
DieHard
vic
Soarer uzz31 Limited

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 - 07:23 pm, by:  Avin Luther (Lex_luther) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey Nice rims,
Have you Shown ROb Hayden?


see i do know the difference between 5 and 6
Benjamin Burgess
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NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Monday, March 27, 2006 - 10:15 am, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Looks like a procharger or something similar?
Justin Staier
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qld
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Monday, March 27, 2006 - 01:53 pm, by:  Justin Staier (Psiuz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

On holidays at the moment Guys so don't get near here real often. Where is the biggest restriction in exhaust system and does anyone know how big factory fuel pump is thanks for all help. also wheels were on when i brought and that morristech piggy back has inbuilt 2.8 bar map sensor cheers
Damien Smith
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NSW
Manual UZZ31

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Monday, March 27, 2006 - 02:04 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The whole exhaust is restrictive - seriously! If you want to save some dollars you can replace everything from the factory cats back with a dual 2.5" system and 2 offset mufflers. If you can afford to do extractors at the same time it's well worth it.

I think the fuel pump is the same on both V8 & TT and if it is they can support pretty big HP. One of the TT guys would know the limits.
Andrew Meiers
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Victoria
V8, ST

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Monday, March 27, 2006 - 09:23 pm, by:  Andrew Meiers (Acmtt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

270rwkw is the limit of the fuel pump.
Tim Appleton
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QLD
Soarer UZZ31 V8 GT-L

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 03:54 pm, by:  Tim Appleton (Timbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sweeeet!! Very nice, Justin.

How's the bottom end response with a blower like that?

The most restrictive part of the exhaust is the centre muffler. But listen to Damien and replace the whole lot if possible, including Neil's headers. It will sound much better as well.
Damien Smith
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NSW
Manual UZZ31

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 04:10 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good point Tim but the centre muffler usually gets replaced with a cat during compliance, making it worse. The compliancers could either replace both the stock cats or install 1 new one so that's what they normally do to save costs.

If that's how yours has been done then the 2 stock cats should be fine which means you can remove the restrictive centre cat and replace it with some straight pipe - that would be your cheapest option.
Tim Staier
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Qld
Lancer 1.8 CE

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Tuesday, March 28, 2006 - 09:52 pm, by:  Tim Staier (Tradewind) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Benjamin

I see up the top he says "just fitted a Raptor blower". Something not common I gather, the name isn't familiar anywhere.

All looks sweet as, got that factory look almost!
Benjamin Burgess
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NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL

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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 12:40 pm, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Never heard of a raptor. It looks very similar to a procharger. There more like turbochargers than traditional superchargers, just belts driven. Much more efficient than traditional roots blowers.

http://www.raptorsc.com.au/Superchargers.htm

http://www.procharger.com/tech.shtml

Looks like same tech.
Eldin Didic
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NSW
UZZ30 V8

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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 03:29 pm, by:  Eldin Didic (Dvine) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Was thinking the same thing. These look like turbo chargers and not superchargers.. hrmmm...
Damien Smith
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NSW
Manual UZZ31

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Wednesday, March 29, 2006 - 03:36 pm, by:  Damien Smith (Damien) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They're known as centrifugal superchargers - very popular with pushrod V8 owners. See
www.capa.com.au
Tim Appleton
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QLD
Soarer UZZ31 V8 GT-L

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 09:44 am, by:  Tim Appleton (Timbo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

They (centrifugal) tend to give an increasing amount of boost as revs rise, more suited to engines that already have a lot of bottom end shove (Gen3's).

The 1UZ is more suited to the positive displacement chargers as they tend to need bottom end torque to get the car off the line. With a centrifugal charger on a 1UZ you're going to get even more top-end torque - sounds like fun
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
3.0 GT

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Thursday, March 30, 2006 - 10:39 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nothing new, centrifugal superchargers have been around pretty much as long as standard positive displacement. As mentioned, in most supercharger applications, they just dont work anywhere near as well.
Robin Giles
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WA
Limited UZZ31

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Friday, March 31, 2006 - 01:05 am, by:  Robin Giles (Rob) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it works like turbo but is belt driven rather than exhaust gas driven what RPM are you doing to get 10 psi? and when does usable boost start?

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