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Hugh Jorgan
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Vic
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 01:27 pm, by:  Hugh Jorgan (Soulfire) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey all, new member here.
I'm looking at buying a 1991 soarer TT, and the one I'm looking at has a turbo smart bleed valve.

I'm not really keen on bleed valves, particularly when I don't have a boost gauge to monitor whether or not it's spiking.

Are there any electronic boost controllers that you guys recommend? Thanks.
Paul Brockbank
DieHard
WA
GT35R Single T

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 01:49 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Blitz Dual-SBC Spec R

IMHO easily the best one on the market for the price ($450).
Steven Nanevski
DieHard
NSW
HKS 264/264 Cams are in, Cheering....

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 01:51 pm, by:  Steven Nanevski (Imprestik) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I got a turbosmart e-boost, and its great, so easy to use and set..
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 01:53 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Everyone will probably just recommend what they have got Hugh.
Best do a bit of searching, that way you can decide for yourself based on features etc.
Yang Luo
TryHard
vic
soarer twin turbo manual

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:29 pm, by:  Yang Luo (Steven) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i would say greddy boost controller worth to buy
cheaper than HKS EVC APEXI AVCR BLITZ.GREDDY boost controller is a very little one you can hide somewhere easily than the others.also easy seting boost
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:32 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I heard some EBC can spike also... I'd check that too if I were you...

I'm personally gonna grab a bleed valve for now and see how I go. Unless you're keen on spending some money on a flashy unit, I'd wait and see how well the bleed valve you got there works. If boost spikes, your engine will cut out, so it will not do any damage don't worry.
Hugh Jorgan
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Vic
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:39 pm, by:  Hugh Jorgan (Soulfire) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah I know what you're saying, at least most EBCs have a boost gauge built in though, and they tend to look a bit more tasteful than a boost gauge. Would just be good to see if it was actually running specified levels of boost. $400ish ain't exactly expensive.
Maurice Diggler
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Victoria
Twin Turbo

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 04:36 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Daniel Czechowski wrote on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 02:32 pm:

I heard some EBC can spike also... I'd check that too if I were you...


If you set them up incorrectly with a high gain it is bound to spike.

Fact of the matter is, EBC's control boost the best.
Vinh Bui
DieHard
NSW
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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 06:03 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I personally wouldn't use a bleed valve since they can cause boost leaks, really harsh spikes, etc. Some people have had some success with them though, so it may be a viable option if your finances don't allow for an EBC.

Hugh, I have the GReddy Profec B Spec 2 (yes, very common EBC) and it's a fantastic little unit. It has a built in digital boost gauge and isn't too flashy. I picked mine up off Ebay along with the GReddy turbo timer in a package for $650 delivered. Very good value considering the boost controller alone is about $650 RRP.
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 06:11 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah the spike can be tuned out of EBCs. Hell I knew nothing about mine but after reading the manual it all became clear and I stopped it spiking by just messing with a few settings.
Paul Brockbank
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WA
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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 07:48 pm, by:  Paul Brockbank (Brockas) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 01:53 pm:

Everyone will probably just recommend what they have got Hugh.
Best do a bit of searching, that way you can decide for yourself based on features etc.



Not all of us mate.

I use a GFB Bleed Valve on my external gate setup, holds boost perfectly, doesn't spike or drop off at all.

I only suggest the Blitz Dual-SBC Spec R because I've seen it used on several very high HP cars without an issue.

Based on the experience of myself and my mates:

Good:
Blitz Dual-SBC Spec R
GReddy Profec B Spec II
Blitz SBC-iD III

Bad:
GReddy E-01
Apexi AVCR
Maurice Diggler
TryHard
Victoria
Twin Turbo

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 09:00 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a GFB bleed valve... Car spiked from 13-18psi many times. :-( I soon upgrade to a Blitz EBC, haven't looked back.

It's great.
Yang Luo
TryHard
vic
soarer twin turbo manual

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 10:31 pm, by:  Yang Luo (Steven) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Good:
Blitz Dual-SBC Spec R
GReddy Profec B Spec II
Blitz SBC-iD III

Bad:
GReddy E-01
Apexi AVCR

as paul said Apexi avcr is not a good one.i heard many people has problem with the apexi avc-r when it working the noise coming out
Maurice Diggler
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Victoria
Twin Turbo

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Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 10:35 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Yang Luo wrote on Tuesday, October 24, 2006 - 10:31 pm:

i heard many people has problem with the apexi avc-r when it working the noise coming out


That sound is the solenoid/s working!

Yang, I know of a few people who have had terrific results with the AVC-R, usually the people who don't like it haven't set it up right and don't know how to use it.
Yang Luo
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vic
soarer twin turbo manual

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 12:16 am, by:  Yang Luo (Steven) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe
Marc Vipond
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Queensland
JZZ30 GT35R

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 08:36 am, by:  Marc Vipond (04awe) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've always bought Greddy gear for all my cars and I won't stray until the day one of them plays up.....7 years and counting!
Hugh Jorgan
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Vic
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 09:21 am, by:  Hugh Jorgan (Soulfire) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks all.
I bought a Profec B Spec II
Michael O'Driscoll
TryHard
Victoria
TT

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 11:18 am, by:  Michael O'Driscoll (Remickz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think i will be buying a profec B aswell.
Daniel Clarke
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TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 01:57 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Im running a Pro Fec B Spec 2 on my car. Love it:-)
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 02:43 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hehe Greddy Profec BSpec II FTW. I've got one on my car.
Daniel Czechowski
Goo Roo
Western Australia
Soarer GT-T

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 02:47 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm, now I'm leaning more towards it, at least will suit my Greddy turbo timer haha. Will decide when I'm done fixing the car :-)
Vinh Bui
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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 04:08 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You know you want it Daniel!

Suits the turbo timer and the SAFC II perfectly. I don't have a picture though :-(
Daniel Czechowski
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Soarer GT-T

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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 04:55 pm, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why? Have you got one for sale too Vinh? :-)

I would have thought the AVC-R would suit SAFCII more oh well... the Greddy one I can hide somewhere in my footwell so my gf won't even know I spent money on the car again. Hell, she doesn't know that in last fortnight I spent 1700 bux on new turbos, 400 bux on SAFC and that I'm buying a $1000 dump pipe too haha!! $450 on a boost controller is just peanuts in the whole grand scheme of things hey
Vinh Bui
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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 05:08 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Haha sorry Daniel, I don't. My friend from Autobarn can get them for about $450 if you're interested?
Dude I'll go take a picture of them later at night. It's really ugly during the day because of where it's currently residing.. :-(

I got mine from Ebay for a lot more than that but at least it's BLACK!
Neil Griffiths
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Wednesday, October 25, 2006 - 05:15 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Make SURE you use REALLY good hose to connect the Boost Controller up..
I lost some Snails today from cheap Silicon hose HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

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