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Trent Toovey
TryHard
QLD
tt
Posts: 169
Reg: 07-2006
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hi does any one have any after market cams if so what brand are they and how much are they worth |
Yang Luo
DieHard
vic
soarer twin turbo manual
Posts: 508
Reg: 04-2006
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hks cam pulley 215 each
greddy 220 each |
Shane Bradley
Tinkerer
WA
Supra JZA70 LTD
Posts: 52
Reg: 11-2005
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HKS Camshafts are around $1500 a pair.. |
Yang Luo
DieHard
vic
soarer twin turbo manual
Posts: 510
Reg: 04-2006
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hks cam shaft 264 degree inlet looking at 500+post |
Yang Luo
DieHard
vic
soarer twin turbo manual
Posts: 511
Reg: 04-2006
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here is a link will help you for cam shaft
http://www.nengun.com/catalogue/product/137
cam pulley
http://www.tweakit.net/shop/index.php?cPath=326_396_639 |
Steven Nanevski
DieHard
NSW
HKS 264/264 Cams are in, Cheering....
Posts: 774
Reg: 07-2005
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quote:hks cam shaft 264 degree inlet looking at 500+post
You didnt add the tax to that figure either, so your actually looking at a total of $600 to $700 each including post, which includes the tax they put on you for different types of payment too |
Steven Nanevski
DieHard
NSW
HKS 264/264 Cams are in, Cheering....
Posts: 775
Reg: 07-2005
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btw I have HKS 264/264 cams in with a JUN exhaust cam gear in, very noticable in the mid to top end, once I get my Greddy e-manage ultimate in and exhaust cam gear dialed in, I am hoping I will notice a difference further down the rev range too. |
Sam Briggs
Tinkerer
nsw
IDAR3U JZZ30 T78
Posts: 51
Reg: 09-2006
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i have 272/272 hks cams... very lumpy note and mid to top end is awesome and very revvy |
Trent Toovey
TryHard
QLD
tt
Posts: 170
Reg: 07-2006
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thanks guys i all so want to know if i can put cam gears on the inlet and exhaust sides as ive been told you cant on an auto |
Richard Johnson
Tinkerer
Florida, USA
SC300 1JZ-GTE Swap
Posts: 87
Reg: 06-2006
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you were told horse •••••
I have titan cam gears on my auto. I retarded the exhaust cam 2.5 degrees and flatened out my powerband.
I dyno'd 300whp from 4k rpm to 7krpm, very flat and nice. ALOT more lower end torque also. |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1077
Reg: 07-2005
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Have you moved your inlet cam Richard?
AFAIK if you do the ecu will detect that the cam sensor is not in rotation with the crank sensor and it will go into limp mode.
If you haven't moved it then there should be no problem and there should also be no gain.
Feel free to prove me wrong.
Doesn't really worry me as I have aftermarket ecu anyway. |
Richard Johnson
Tinkerer
Florida, USA
SC300 1JZ-GTE Swap
Posts: 93
Reg: 06-2006
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Changing the intake cam, changes the ignition timing.... so no i dont change it. But its been proven on MKIV's that advancing it a few degrees does wonders |
Ben Socratous
Goo Roo
SA
I am the fibreglass/kevlar/carbonfibre king!
Posts: 1076
Reg: 07-2005
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It seems that the general concensus is that changing the inlet cam one an auto car with a stock ecu is a waste of time and money for the reasons that Chris has stated.
This might sound crazy, but there are still SOME reputable retailers/tuners out there and they will not try and sell you something that you don't need, as Trent has obviously been told. |
Richard Johnson
Tinkerer
Florida, USA
SC300 1JZ-GTE Swap
Posts: 99
Reg: 06-2006
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Being auto or manual has nothing to do with it. The cam position sensor doesn't input to the transmission or its shift values.
I changed both gears, cause it looks sezzzy...
My motor has no idle motor connected, no VSV valve connected, and I have never seen a "limp" mode. It to my understanding OBD1 cars don't have such a thing. I could be wrong. |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1085
Reg: 07-2005
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Yeah it looks good but if it increases the chances of my engine blowing I would be very wary. I have heard of them slipping and therefore advancing or retarding the cam as much as possible. 12deg? or something. I would be VERY careful when adjusting.
They definitely have limp mode. My car was in it when I had an aftermarket ecu running fuel and stock doing timing. As the stock ecu was missing a lot of its inputs it went into limp mode. I made 192rwkw@20psi boost with optimal AFR's and a 62mm turbo. The missing factor is ignition timing which would have been as far retarded (pun intended) as possible!
If you could dyno/ quarter mile your car, then advance the inlet cam 1 or 2 deg and see the differences then that would prove either way what happens  |
Aaron Mead
DieHard
NT
TT
Posts: 795
Reg: 03-2006
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hehehehe, this 180SX came into my tuners the other day, somone frigged with the PowerFC and it had 80' advance plugged into it! |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1087
Reg: 07-2005
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ignition timing is different to cam timing. But 80deg ignition advance is definitely not going to be good. |
Trent Toovey
TryHard
QLD
tt
Posts: 180
Reg: 07-2006
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got my new cam gears 6kw gain |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo
QLD
Corona
Posts: 1108
Reg: 07-2005
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Most up the dyno sheet Trent.
More interested in the shape of the curve than peak gains.
Also, what are your settings on intake and exhaust? |
Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland
jzz30 ute / uzz30/ 2 X uzz31
Posts: 1569
Reg: 07-2005
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chris;
only exhaust was set
inlet "0" deg
exhaust "5" deg
it is an auto with no piggy back
every thing is stock except for steel turbos exhaust and front mount i think |
Trent Toovey
TryHard
QLD
tt
Posts: 181
Reg: 07-2006
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ill get a pick tomorrow and post it |
Trent Toovey
TryHard
QLD
tt
Posts: 197
Reg: 07-2006
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new cam gears gain 21kw with 15psi
was running 13.5 psi before got 205.4kw |
Steven Nanevski
DieHard
NSW
HKS 264/264 Cams are in, Cheering....
Posts: 795
Reg: 07-2005
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your kidding me, 21 kw gain, and thats at the rear wheels too???
Fark, I better get mine dialled in and see what I pull. |
James Harris
DieHard
QLD
TT
Posts: 878
Reg: 07-2005
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21KW gain and for HOW MUCH total ?
Hmmmm... not a bad idea me finks |
Daniel Clarke
DieHard
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 977
Reg: 03-2006
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Umm Guys, he did say 205.4 @ 13.5psi and NOW its running 15psi and 226.4rwkw. So the Boost increase would have alot to do with the increase in power as well as the cam gears. He did say the Cam gear gave hime 6rwkw total gain.
But im sure it would have brought on the boost a little earlier in the rev range? Correct me if im wrong Trent. |
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