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Peter Suridge
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NT
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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 08:37 am, by:  Peter Suridge (Toyostar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey all, fairly new on here, haven't posted much as I have been researching all the old topics.

One thing that i couldn't find is anything on turbo chatter.

I bought my car as a work in progress and it has a Hybrid T3 Single turbo in place of the Twins, a 38mm Wastegate, Front mount IC and a pod filter.

Basically everytime i take my foot off the accelerator it chatters really loud back through the turbo (which i've heard is not good) and through the filter.

I have no BOV on the pipes anywhere to or from the Intercooler.

On my previous car all i had to do was wind back the spring/piston on the BOV to eliminate the chatter, but i have not had much experience with Wastegates. Is it basically the same thing?

Cheers

Pete
Scott Ferguson
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Soarer GTT-L

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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 08:50 am, by:  Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Peter Suridge wrote on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 08:37 am:

I have no BOV on the pipes anywhere to or from the Intercooler.




Therein lies the problem, you are getting compression surge and this is obviously really bad for the turbo.

The inertia of the spinning turbine, and the continued flow of exhaust gasses, continues to compress the intake air but not the the throttle plate has closed there is no place for this compressed air to go except to 'bounce' back through the turbo in reverse causing the turbine to come to a violent and shuddering halt.

The blow off valve will allow this compressed air to release and vent rather than reversing and smacking your turbo about.

Please, please, please do it soon.

Get a BOV on there. Please.
Kim Nguyen
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WA
Soarer TT

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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 09:11 am, by:  Kim Nguyen (Kim) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does it still have the factory BOV?
Turbo surge is only good if you own a VL commo right?
Scott Ferguson
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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 09:14 am, by:  Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Peter Suridge wrote on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 08:37 am:

I have no BOV on the pipes anywhere to or from the Intercooler.




Looks like he has a single now so should be all new piping. Plus he says that he has no BOV anywhere on the compressor side of the turbo to the throttle body.
Peter Suridge
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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 09:20 am, by:  Peter Suridge (Toyostar) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers thanks Scott.

I'll look at getting one this weekend. if not then next week definitely.

Anyone got any recommendations on where to Fit the BOV? I would tend to have it close to the throttle body as per my old car. but i know there are different opinions on this...

Kim - Nah no factory BOV.

Cheers

Pete
Scott Ferguson
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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 09:24 am, by:  Scott Ferguson (Scott_ferguson) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

most people have the BOV just before the throttle body after intercooler.
Daniel Czechowski
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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 10:39 am, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Peter Suridge wrote on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 08:37 am:

On my previous car all i had to do was wind back the spring/piston on the BOV to eliminate the chatter, but i have not had much experience with Wastegates. Is it basically the same thing?




BOV and wastegates are two differnet things. BOV is as stated above. Wastegate sits on the exhaust side of the turbo that opens up to allow exhaust gasses to bypass the turbine when a certain level of boost is reached, in order to prevent overboosting...

And yes, get a BOV ASAP!!!
Shane Bradley
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WA
Supra JZA70 LTD

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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 11:09 am, by:  Shane Bradley (Endless) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My bro's car has had a GT30R on it for about 4 years with no bov, running 18psi and the turbo is still in as new condition. :-)

Very debateable as to wether they actually do anything except reduce noise.

Just another uneeded thing that is easily defectable IMO, i won't be running one with my single setup either.
James Johnson
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JZZ30

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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 11:25 am, by:  James Johnson (Jamesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Shane Bradley wrote on Friday, December 15, 2006 - 11:09 am:

Just another uneeded thing that is easily defectable IMO, i won't be running one with my single setup either.




only if it is to atmosphere. plumb it back into the intake side and it is fine!
Braden Murdoch
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NSW
Cressida 1JZ TT

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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 01:25 pm, by:  Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

MAP sensored cars can vent to atmo.

What boost is the stock BOV good up til? I'm a bit suss on mine. Boost gauge holds 18psi fine though...
James Harris
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TT

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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 05:25 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i got my bov welded into place after the cooler and just behind the front right (as you look at it) air scoop, so its kinda hidden yet still scares young children
Kim Nguyen
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Soarer TT

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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 05:50 pm, by:  Kim Nguyen (Kim) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just realised, what does this turbo chatter sound like? Because I know my car makes some odd noises sometimes, But I have been told it is just POD filter noise when the Throttle body closes. Makes a kinda CH-CH-CH-CH-SSHHHH noise.

Actually, I am way off aren't I =(
Graham Dollisson
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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 05:55 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

James, forget about the young children. All the money is on scaring old ladies!!
Joel Moore
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SA
91 Soarer TT

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Friday, December 15, 2006 - 07:52 pm, by:  Joel Moore (Ttsoai2ei2) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

same comment as kim. i have what i believe to be a fairly stock tt. i still get the bov noise out of the pod. is this the same?
Luke Nieuwhof
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Soarer TT

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Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 12:59 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soarers have a stock BOV that is more audible without the airbox, thats the sound you hear and is nothing to worry about.
I think turbo flutter is different again. Sounds like a pigeon haha.
Daniel Czechowski
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Sunday, December 17, 2006 - 02:44 am, by:  Daniel Czechowski (Dan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Luke Nieuwhof wrote on Saturday, December 16, 2006 - 12:59 pm:

I think turbo flutter is different again. Sounds like a pigeon haha.




You can hear the "pigeon" on Fast & Furious

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