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Suresh De Mel
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Victoria
Soarer GT-T

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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 08:19 pm, by:  Suresh De Mel (Resh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey guys.
Very, very, very long time reader...first time poster

I know this seems a little bit selfish, and i wish there was another reason for this first post...but ive almost certainly done the old head gasket

Basically the story goes i was driving the car last week when it was almost 40deg down here, Im pretty sure this was the first time ive driven the car in really hot weather; had it for almost two years now. Anyway i was driving along the freeway (about 20mins driving at that point) and i could hear a slight bubbling noise coming the engine area (coolant i guessed). Slowed down and drove at about 80 for the next 5mins, the noise got worse and then on top of the bubbling i now was hearing a sizzling noise as well (At this point temp gauge was sitting right on half). Pulled over, opened the bonnet...coolant bubbling, engine frying, water squirting out from a pipe...thought to myself...CRAP.

Got it towed from there to a garage, they fixed the broken pipe and i took it for a drive, he mentioned that if it overheats then more than likely the heads gone. So i prayed that it was just the pump and the engine had survived, unfortunately it wasnt to be and it overheated to full after about 5mins.

So im pretty much screwed guys.
I need your advice on the options i have. Have done plenty of searches on here and other sites but they are a bit limited and seem to not have an end conclusion as to what eventuated. I would love to do a straight 2jzgte swap however sourcing one for about 2 to 2.5 grand (which is what im budgeting - I can get labour cheap) is next to impossible. Which leads me to a 1jz swap. Ive read that this is probably the best option considering the parts needed for a rebuild.

Advice on what i can do considering my budget would be greatly appreciated.

Only good thing that can come out of this is the options i now have open for engine mods/conversions...maybe not the only thing, at least i got to say HI.
Graham Dollisson
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QLD
GTTL , Morris Marina, P76 V8 Super

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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 09:10 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi and bugger!

Confirm that the head gasket has gone first.

If it has, change the engine. Before it goes in, change the water pump, belts and anything else you can. Saves doing it later.
Suresh De Mel
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Victoria
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Sunday, February 25, 2007 - 09:49 pm, by:  Suresh De Mel (Resh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks mate.

Yeah will be officially finding out tomorrow, but i forgot to mention the water its been churning through the last couple of days...all leading to bad news.

Peed off as it was running well leading up to it, no pre-indications at all.

Definitely going to changeover the basic parts while im at it, and if i go with the 1jz replacement i might add a few goodies while the engines out for an easier install.
Peter Nitschke
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South Australia
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 02:57 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Head gaskets usually go as a result of the engine cooking, so possibly something else actually was the cause of all this.

Change the thermostat on the new engine as well, it's not easy to get at later and may be what caused the overheating. Or not, but change it anyway. :-)
Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 06:27 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'd say its more likely to be another water leak, a failing water pump etc. How many 1JZ's has anyone ever actually heard of with a confirmed blown cylinder head gasket? I have to say I've read about a few "suspected" ones, not one of which has ever come back with a "yup, it was the gasket"

Don't panic yet Suresh, it may yet be something simple.
Suresh De Mel
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Victoria
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 10:43 am, by:  Suresh De Mel (Resh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey fellas.

Matthew...yup, it was the gasket. Had it confirmed this morning

Water pump is fine and there was no other leakages. I just dont realise how it could have happened so quickly, there was no leakages before and the engine had never overheated. Ive driven in 30deg weather before, would the extra 5-10 deg in temp increase cause so much issues?

Could be fate, because i may, and its a big may, have access to a reasonably priced 2jz after all. I'll keep you guys posted as to what im going to do.

Cheers
Matthew Sharpe
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 01:44 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bad luck Suresh! I guess I can answer "1" to my question then!

I'm sure you probably were, but make sure you use Toyota long life coolant in a 50/50 mix too - will help it to not overheat and if it does overheat its less likely to boil.
Tom Kneebone
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WA
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Monday, February 26, 2007 - 11:56 pm, by:  Tom Kneebone (Tomk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Matthew Sharpe wrote on Monday, February 26, 2007 - 01:44 pm:

Bad luck Suresh! I guess I can answer "1" to my question then!




Wife's was missing , did the plugs started missing again after a few minutes of driving, Hmmm ???

Just happened to check the coolant as she said it got hot ... bit oily WTF!!
Pull the dipstick
water in the oil also. Oil was clear but foam was on top.

May have to change it to "2"
Andrew Hargreaves
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 04:30 pm, by:  Andrew Hargreaves (Andicap) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If you want a cheap alternative try chemiweld. Get it from repco or autopro and it is about $8. I used it once on a little nissan i had and it did the trick. kept it for 8 months after that and still had no problem.
Christian Molenda
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 05:07 pm, by:  Christian Molenda (Christof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

NOTE: dont buy this car if fixed with chemiweld!

If your going to fix it do it properly. My opinion anyway
Joel Moore
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 06:29 pm, by:  Joel Moore (Ttsoai2ei2) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I think it sounds more like your thermo man or a leaking core or something. check the oil like the bloke above said. im not buying it but im not a mechanic either
Dan McColl
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 06:58 pm, by:  Dan McColl (Hoon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get a compression check and a cooling system pressure check to confirm the problem.
Sean Yost
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 08:20 pm, by:  Sean Yost (Crazystitch) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

could be your radiator having issues and not cooling properly. mine overheated when things got hot outside, same scenario except my sensors went off like a meat pack in the hot summer sun. get it cleaned and checked out too, could just be something simple. as matthew said the 1jz-gte blowing a head gasket is well, unheard of under "normal" driving even after overheating. good luck with sorting it out, hope you can get it back up and runnin
Suresh De Mel
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Victoria
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 09:38 pm, by:  Suresh De Mel (Resh) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Andrew Hargreaves wrote on Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 04:30 pm:




Not sure if this was for me or Tom but there is no way i would go down that track. Might do the trick for a few days or weeks, but screw getting stuck in the middle of nowhere and having to get your car towed.

Also has anyone in Vic dealt with AVO in Cheltenham?

If anyones got a modified 1jzgte block or a standard 2jzgte block im all ears...maybe im being greedy??
Bob Fulthorpe
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Tuesday, February 27, 2007 - 09:54 pm, by:  Bob Fulthorpe (Morphious) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hi Suresh, I blew the my head gasket a couple of weeks ago, I agree with the guys change everything you can while engine is out. MY gasket blew because the thermostat jammed shut and I keep driving it (at a drift practice day)You can't teach an old dog new tricks!!!!!!!!!!! If you can get a engine under grand it is cheaper than doing the head gasket. I found a good one (no turbo etc for $500)
Matthew Sharpe
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Wednesday, February 28, 2007 - 08:53 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok, Ok, so 3 then!

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