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Joe Radisic
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WA
2JZ GTE SingleTurbo

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Saturday, March 24, 2007 - 07:13 pm, by:  Joe Radisic (Joe) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nearing completion of 2jzgte engine conversion i have found out my Haltech Interceptor piggy backed with factory ecu (auto) is not going to work with the signals and parameters of my new 2j setup. What might be the best way to do the new setup? I am considering a Haltech E11 and Suprastick SS-V4 but not sure how it will tie in with the rest of the electronics on factory ecu (a/c, dash etc.) Also Haltech Interceptor will be for sale when removed. Any advice from the guys who have gone through the conversion would be greatly appreciated. Cheers
Dennis Weglehner
Tinkerer
QLD
R31 Skyline with 2JZGTE and A340E

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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 12:06 am, by:  Dennis Weglehner (2jzr31) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you going to wire up the 2JZ ecu and use the 2JZ trans?
Richard Johnson
TryHard
Florida, USA
SC300 1JZ-GTE Swap

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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 02:48 am, by:  Richard Johnson (92soarertt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why are you using a piggy back?

a 2JZGTE and auto trans into a Soarer is about as easy as a swap gets, only a few wires to change on the body plugs for gauges, warning lights, and mph/tach signal.

No need for a seperate ecu to run it, just use the stock 2jzgte ecu and plug it in the 2jzgte harness
Nayr Civoknar
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ30

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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 02:08 am, by:  Nayr Civoknar (Ryanonejay) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

a regular 2JZ ecu wont run a big single would it?

Joe Radisic
TryHard
WA
2JZ GTE SingleTurbo

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Richard Johnson
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Florida, USA
SC300 1JZ-GTE Swap

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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 02:13 am, by:  Richard Johnson (92soarertt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Of course it will. Just get a MAP ECU. Thats the standard piggy back here in America. Can control a motor and fuel system to around 650rwkw.


The MAP ECU 2 also control ignition, it's still new, but i don't see a problem doing over 1000 rwhp with it.
Joe Radisic
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WA
2JZ GTE SingleTurbo

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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 08:40 am, by:  Joe Radisic (Joe) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm using 1jz trans and ecu as it was with the old twin turbo 1jz setup, the Haltech Interceptor was X speeds choice of piggyback back then.
Joe Radisic
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WA
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Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 08:43 am, by:  Joe Radisic (Joe) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Richard Johnson wrote on Sunday, March 25, 2007 - 02:48 am:

No need for a seperate ecu to run it, just use the stock 2jzgte ecu and plug it in the 2jzgte harness



I don't have the 2jz ecu or harness.
Richard Johnson
TryHard
Florida, USA
SC300 1JZ-GTE Swap

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Monday, March 26, 2007 - 08:34 am, by:  Richard Johnson (92soarertt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well, thats your problem. Pickup an aristo harness and ecu and do it right.
Chris Davey
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Corona

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Monday, March 26, 2007 - 10:20 am, by:  Chris Davey (Chris_davey) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I would get SSv4 and wire it to stock auto wiring. Then get whatever ecu of choice and make a custom harness for injectors, coils, crank and cam sensors. pretty easy that way.
Joe Radisic
TryHard
WA
2JZ GTE SingleTurbo

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Monday, March 26, 2007 - 08:10 pm, by:  Joe Radisic (Joe) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have been advised that the crank angle sensor is different on the 2jz engine, and sends a different rpm signal than the 1jz did back to factory ecu to run the accessories (dash, a/c, trans) can anyone confirm or disagree with this????

Have also been told by others that they are the same and should work fine, with the 1jz factory ecu and harness with the new ecu and wired loom for fuel, ignition etc?
Richard Johnson
TryHard
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SC300 1JZ-GTE Swap

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Monday, March 26, 2007 - 11:58 pm, by:  Richard Johnson (92soarertt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The SSV4 does not control the aristo transmission, as the line pressure is ECU controlled.

the new SSV5 will control it, but until then, you'd have to use the 2.5TT A340E with the SSv4 (cable line pressure controlled).

SSv5 won't be out for another few months.
Dragan Vidic
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Vic
soarer tt

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 03:45 am, by:  Dragan Vidic (Soarer_ttt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Why wouldn't the factory ecu with a piggy back do the job? And how exactly and why would you want to use a 2jz ecu when you need you standard ecu to run everything else?

My 2j has been running for a while now on just a standard 1j ecu, no piggy back and still making 200rwkw on 11psi. Not to mention that the AF ratios are dropping into 9s at some stage, which will soon be fixed by an emanage.
Joe Radisic
TryHard
WA
2JZ GTE SingleTurbo

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Saturday, March 31, 2007 - 09:23 am, by:  Joe Radisic (Joe) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thanks for your replies all sorted, the points on the crank for crank angle sensor were bent and butched and we weren't getting a constant rpm signal, replaced now and engine running.

Apparently some 1j - 2j supra swaps have completely different crank angle teeth points and need to be swapped, in my case they were the same only damaged.

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I am using my 1j ecu and upgrading the piggy back because the interceptor is limited (like can't tune past 20psi which is fine for most 1j setups) compared to a full ecu , so a Haltech E11 will get wired in to replace it and motorplex here i come



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