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Brendan Hax
TryHard
QLD
JZX90 Chaser Tourer-V

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Monday, May 07, 2007 - 06:08 pm, by:  Brendan Hax (Chaser_94) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I've done a search and came up with a few things i just want to clarify about the fuel/boost cut.

Boost cut seems to be around 1 bar (14.5psi) and if you get a fuel cut defender, is it true that this cut's the voltage off at a certain point. If so wouldn't that lean the top end out? This is where a computer would be able to put the extra fuel in to make it not dangerous, is this corect?

Does putting the 2jz-gte map sensor in place raise the boost cut to around 18psi, as this is what i seem to have read. Basically all i'm asking is if i put a 2jz-gte map sensor, with an emanage computer, 440cc injectors, fuel pump and GCG hiflows, can i run over 1 bar without the need for a fuel cut defender???

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Brendan
Danny Dinh
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Victoria
GT T

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Monday, May 07, 2007 - 08:31 pm, by:  Danny Dinh (Xtc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Emanage should remove boost and speed cut.
Maurice Diggler
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Victoria
Twin Turbo

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Monday, May 07, 2007 - 08:39 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeh, if you plan to run 1 bar boost, don't bother with the 2JZ map sensor or the Fuel Cut Defender.

The Emanage Blue unit can tune it and does boost cut as well but not speed cut. The more expensive Emanage Ultimate does boost and speed cut.
Byron Clarke
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NSW
VVTi Turbo Manual

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Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 02:29 pm, by:  Byron Clarke (Byron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how about pfc?
Braden Murdoch
DieHard
NSW
Cressida 1JZ TT

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Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 03:06 pm, by:  Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yes no more fuel is added with a fuel cut defender. But there is plenty there to support around 18psi.
David Wilson
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NSW
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 03:53 pm, by:  David Wilson (Davieeeee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just further to brendans first comment... Would the ECU never boost cut below 14.5psi assuming all your engine components are intact/working?

Some people have suggested that it does not always cut at 14.5 and that the ECU is a bit temperamental, but i thought that this wouldnt be the case and that it would be caused by other factors?
Danny Dinh
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Victoria
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Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 06:59 pm, by:  Danny Dinh (Xtc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Byron,
PowerFc should remove fuel/boost and speed cut. It also allows you to raise rpm cutout. I miss my PowerFc
Blake Gloyn
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manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT

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Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 08:18 pm, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i put in a 2jzgte MAP sensor once and it only lifted the boost cut to around 14.5psi from around 13.5psi approx.
Cihan Aday
Goo Roo
The blue pill or the ultimate pill, make your choice.
JZZ30

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Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:07 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Factory boost cut is at ~13.5psi.
Most cheap after market gauges aren't very accurate at all, as such the myth about it being at 1 bar came about. No matter what, the boost cut voltage doesn't change.

Blake is correct, using a supra map sensor will only raise boost cut about 1.2psi. Thats because MAP sensors use a linear pressure vs voltage output scale and the 2JZ sensor has about 10% more resolution.
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo
NSW
Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest

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Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 09:14 am, by:  Benjamin Burgess (Jampac) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Danny Dinh wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 06:59 pm:

Byron,
PowerFc should remove fuel/boost and speed cut. It also allows you to raise rpm cutout. I miss my PowerFc




It works great :-) Ran two 11 second runs with it :-)
Danny Dinh
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Victoria
GT T

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Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 09:20 pm, by:  Danny Dinh (Xtc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's good to hear you're happy with it. congrats Ben. It's easier for an auto to break 11s than a manual.
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
Twin Turbo

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Wednesday, May 09, 2007 - 10:01 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Cihan Aday wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:07 pm:

Factory boost cut is at ~13.5psi.



Cihan Aday wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:07 pm:

using a supra map sensor will only raise boost cut about 1.2psi



Cihan Aday wrote on Tuesday, May 08, 2007 - 11:07 pm:

the 2JZ sensor has about 10% more resolution.



You must be getting tired, Cihan.

10% of 13.5psi isn't 1.2psi, it's 1.35 actually.

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David Henderson
Tinkerer
Nsw
TT

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 10:12 pm, by:  David Henderson (Hendo) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

jaycar do a kit. Trims MAP voltage to 3.85V costs around $25

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