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Alan Chow
Tinkerer
Vic
TT

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 08:36 am, by:  Alan Chow (Kfchow) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

7.5psi?? stockies run at 9psi.
James Lamanna
Tinkerer
Victoria
N/A

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 09:28 am, by:  James Lamanna (Soarenhigh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

has anyone else who have bought the steel wheel turbo's had any similar problems?
Andrew Ferres
TryHard
WA
Cressida V8

Posts: 130
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 11:18 am, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You have less power because you are running less boost.

Go buy a Gizzmo Electronics boost controller.

Wire it in, program it to 14psi, and go have fun.
Nick Bentley
Newbie
NSW
jzz30tt

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:12 pm, by:  Nick Bentley (Crazymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

so my soarer has had steel wheel turbo's fitted when the stockers blew. still running standard boost (10 psi), are u saying that my car will actually be slower cause of the heavier wheels? thats untill i up the boost
Andrew Ferres
TryHard
WA
Cressida V8

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:18 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Steel wheels are heavier, therefore require more energy to turn.
ie, will take a higher rpm to spool.
Brad Elphinstone
TryHard
NSW
JZZ30 GT-T

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:21 pm, by:  Brad Elphinstone (Belphins) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Some of the wording here is a bit of a worry.

Your car will not necessarily be slower with steel wheeled turbos. It will simply take longer time (lag) to achieve the same levels of boost compared to the time needed for ceramic wheeled turbos to achieve the same amount of boost. 10PSI is 10PSI, regardless of the wheels you run.
Cihan Aday
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ30 Twin Turbo

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:30 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Andrew, how are the Gizzmo EBC's? Hows tuning done one it? is it set and drive or do you have change solenoid duty cycles etc?
Andrew Ferres
TryHard
WA
Cressida V8

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:35 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

My mate recently put a Gizzmo on his car.
He now wants to vote it for President.

Reckons its the best $400odd he's spent.

4 wires and a hose out of the Gizzmo.
power, earth, 2 to solenoid.
Probably 15-40mins plumbing up solenoid, depending on how hard the twins are to get to.

The Gizzmo takes care of everything automatically.
Tell it what boost you want, and how quick you want it to come on, a couple of quick thrashes through the gears, and its done.
Graham Dollisson
TryHard
QLD
GT-TL

Posts: 254
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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:38 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

that Gizzmo sounds like a good gizzmo to have!
Cihan Aday
TryHard
Victoria
JZZ30 Twin Turbo

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:42 pm, by:  Cihan Aday (Cihan) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm i agree.. sounds good.
But does it spike? And how do you progrom/set it up?
Theres no damn tech docs or manuals i can get my hands on..
Ryan Rankovic
TryHard
Victoria
Soarer TT GT-TL

Posts: 64
Reg: 07-2005

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:42 pm, by:  Ryan Rankovic (Ryan1j) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i didnt think EBC's spiked...only mechanical ones?
Andrew Ferres
TryHard
WA
Cressida V8

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:43 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It may spike once or twice when setting itself up, but it doesn't do it after its set up.

As for tech docs
http://www.gizzmoelectronics.com/pdf/IBC%20Instruction.pdf
and
http://www.gizzmoelectronics.com/pdf/IBC%20Quick%20Start%20Instruction.pdf
Nick Bentley
Newbie
NSW
jzz30tt

Posts: 4
Reg: 09-2005

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:53 pm, by:  Nick Bentley (Crazymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

quoteauthor{Brad Elphinstone,Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:21 pm,Your car will not necessarily be slower with steel wheeled turbos. It will simply take longer time (lag) to achieve the same levels of boost compared to the time needed for ceramic wheeled turbos to achieve the same amount of boost. 10PSI is 10PSI, regardless of the wheels you run.}



well thats what i mean. 0-100 will be slower as it takes more time to come on boost. is that right?
i would still have the same power, but slower 0-100....

anyone here use a celicamad hyper boost controller?
Andrew Ferres
TryHard
WA
Cressida V8

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:57 pm, by:  Andrew Ferres (Peewee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

CelicaMad would probably be the beast mechanical boost controller on the market.

From what I've heard it takes a bit of fiddling to get the boost to come on as quick as possible while preventing spiking.
Jeff Wilkins
TryHard
South Australia
JZZ30 GT-TL

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 03:57 pm, by:  Jeff Wilkins (Calin) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

From what Ive seen the lag difference between CT12's with ceramic and steel wheels is stuff all in any case. Its not a couple of T51's after all!!

There are other issues at play here...
Nick Bentley
Newbie
NSW
jzz30tt

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 04:06 pm, by:  Nick Bentley (Crazymax) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah, i actually know paul (the inventer) and my brother was the sydney provider for the unit. so i got one off him. he will fit it. so hopefully should get it sorted quikly as he has fitted heaps of these units.

yeah im not talking a huge difference here. just woundering about 0-100 times. i did a 6.4 on a g-tech. was ok. but will be interesting to see what it does with same boost but celica mad waste gate unit fitted.
Brad Elphinstone
TryHard
NSW
JZZ30 GT-T

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 04:07 pm, by:  Brad Elphinstone (Belphins) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nick, what Jeff said.
Graham Dollisson
TryHard
QLD
GT-TL

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 04:35 pm, by:  Graham Dollisson (Alloyvee) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

What you lose with it coming on boost a tad slower, you gain with being able to run higher boost without the bang!!
Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland
TT

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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 06:06 pm, by:  Lew Radbourn (Marlew) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sam just make sure that the piping has been re connected properly
the steel wheels will come on boost ever so slightly up the rev range from were the ceramics used to come on
I would reset your ecu;
but make sure all the hoses are correct first
also if you have a aftermarket BOV on there make sure it is set right as well
if ya still got dramas after doing this you have my number call me and we can check other things.
Lew
James Lamanna
Tinkerer
Victoria
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Tuesday, September 20, 2005 - 06:27 pm, by:  James Lamanna (Soarenhigh) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So you found the route of this problem yet?

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