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Kyle Wathen
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Monday, August 27, 2007 - 04:44 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I just spoke to Doug at S&LC about my oil leak and he gave me a few pointers to try and source it before bringing it in.

Basically if you were at the Dyno Day you would have seen the massive amount of oil (black TT - BLKLEX plates) it was dripping when warm. Doug thinks its dropping too much to be a seal and most likely a worn/cracked oil return line or similar.

Im gonna take it to the car wash and hose it down, but what should i be looking for apart from the leak what do the oil return lines look like?
Brian Timms
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Monday, August 27, 2007 - 05:57 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Look around the turbocharger area from under and above the engine bay, you will find it will be a turbo return pipe.

Turbochargers dont require huge amounts of pressure for their oil, and when it's done going through the bearings, it usually goes down a metal pipe, and back to a rubber pipe that plugs back on the sump.

On the nissin, it's very common for any turbo work to crack these rubber pipes, as they get fragile with age, and when they crack, they obviously leak.

If it's the rubber return pipe, then a 5/8th heater hose will solve your problems.

If not, then it's going to be something a little worse, but I am 90% sure it will be a turbo return pipe.

B.
James Johnson
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Monday, August 27, 2007 - 06:54 pm, by:  James Johnson (Jamesy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Brian Timms wrote on Monday, August 27, 2007 - 05:57 pm:

f it's the rubber return pipe, then a 5/8th heater hose will solve your problems.




bad idea never replace oil rubbers with rubbers designed for heaters etc they will go soft and split in no time!!

if it ends up being a oil return hose, get the genuine toyota part.
Daniel Clarke
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Monday, August 27, 2007 - 08:39 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Geniuine toyota hoses are only about $35 each.
Ben Daniel
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Monday, August 27, 2007 - 10:41 pm, by:  Ben Daniel (Lexustt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

How big is the leak exactly... my oil return has a leak because 1 of the screws has come loose and its hardly leaking despite the fact it moves pretty freely. I'd be checking the oil feed metal pipe.
Kyle Wathen
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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 12:01 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The leaks big, as in it dropped about 1L on Sunday. Only seems to do it when the engines been run and is warm though.

is it possible to leak that much if the cam cover gasket is fubared?
Kyle Wathen
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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 09:58 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well i took it to the car wash today and degreased/sprayed the passenger side as this is where the leak appears to be coming from. These are the photos i took after i jacked it up when i got home. Looks as though its the oil filter or something in the surrounding area. I thought one of you guru's on here may be able to give a more definative answer.

Photos from back of engine, next to gearbox.


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Kyle Wathen
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Tuesday, August 28, 2007 - 10:01 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It seems to pool and then drip from the bolt in the middle of the below pic


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Yes i know its a massive leak and no i havn't been driving it on the roads since i got back from dyno day apart from taking it to the carwash to degrease it.
Peter Nitschke
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 12:58 am, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Get a couple of degreaser spray packs and squirt it all off, then hose it and let it dry. You might see the oil with it just sitting there, or just start it and let it idle while you watch.

The minute you drive it, or rev it, the oil blows everywhere and makes it difficult to trace as your pics show.
Brian Timms
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 06:14 am, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

check the filter if the oil filter if it seems to be passenger side...

I once had my filter come loose, did almost the same thing, you could see it literally dripping, and when I felt the filter, it was loose, very loose.

Quickly pinched it tight, and the oil leak stopped straight away.

B.
Kyle Wathen
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 03:22 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I checked and its on tight. Is it possible for for the filter to have a dodgy seal or something similar where it could leak?
Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 05:03 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sometimes the rubber O-Rings on Oil Filters can be dodgy... Get a new oil filter and whack it on and see what happens.
Neil Griffiths
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 06:18 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Oil Filter appears to be recently replaced !

I would suspect that the OLD sealing ring was still on the plate when the NEW filter was installed.

Attend to it before you pump the engine dry.

Don't piss around asking questions on here, get it to a Mechanic.
Kevin la Terra
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 06:38 pm, by:  Kevin la Terra (Trdpsi) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i have had 2 types of dramas whith falty oil filter ruber rings ( seal ).

1 the bloddy oil filter ring was split several times around the ring, wich made it piss out oil.

2 the old rubber ring was still stuck on the housing when removed, wich made it piss out oil

get it looked at asap mate
Kyle Wathen
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Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 08:59 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Neil Griffiths wrote on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 06:18 pm:

Oil Filter appears to be recently replaced !

I would suspect that the OLD sealing ring was still on the plate when the NEW filter was installed.




It was serviced at Amberley Autos/Horse Power Factory 2 weeks ago, just before i bought it.

When it first started leaking i noticed:
1. The engine oil was actually overfilled
2. The oil looked old anyway (perhaps just topped up?)
3. Now they may have incorrectly put the oil filter on as you guys described.

Very dodgy service from such a respected shop, will definantly be avoiding them in the future!


Neil Griffiths wrote on Wednesday, August 29, 2007 - 06:18 pm:



Attend to it before you pump the engine dry.

Don't piss around asking questions on here, get it to a Mechanic.




I've kept the engine oil topped up when i start it to trace the leak but im not actually driving it, its booked into S&LC this Wednesday so im still asking questions and playing with it as its just sitting stationary in the garage until then and if its something as basic as changing the oil filter then i could get it back on the road myself
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Thursday, August 30, 2007 - 06:49 am, by:  Christian Molenda (Christof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As Neil said.

BUT
if you want to play around with it go spend $10 or so and get a new filter and replace the one thats there. That will atleast eliminate that. Ive had similar leaks from mine, although mine came a little loose
Kyle Wathen
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Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 10:11 am, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Thought i'd post this up in case anyone else is in a similar scenario.

Turns out it was a Oil Pressure Switch just above the aircon compressor. Apparently these dont fail often but mine did
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Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 12:11 pm, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Had that happen several times in Mazda small V6's but never in a Toyota.
Braden Murdoch
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Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 01:04 pm, by:  Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm that might be worth checking on mine, I have a mystery oil leak too, but only minor. Is the sensor easy to get to? Any chance of a pic?
My compressor has been removed, which might simplify things :-)
Kyle Wathen
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Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 02:34 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sounds like your in luck Braden as there was just not enough room to swing a spanner with the compressor on, so it had to be removed/moved out of the away to replace the switch.

Unfortunetly i dont have a pic as its at S&LC getting replaced at the moment. In the second last pic its sort of straight up in that gap above the hose (top centre of pic). Basically passenger side of engine at the front, above aircon compressor.

A new switch is about $60-80 new from Toyota, but they had to remove it first before ordering to see which switch it was, as the Toyota parts guy said some were Denso and some Yamaha? or something like that.

As soon as it was up on the hoist it only took about 1 minute for them to diagnose where it was coming from, but then again you couldn't miss it with the amount of oil coming out
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Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 03:27 pm, by:  Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers Kyle :-)

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