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Kim Anthony
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QLD
v8

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Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 09:40 pm, by:  Kim Anthony (Kma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well i just got a TT soarer... real cheap cos is blowing smoke, a whole heap!

I'm pretty sure its the turbos cos is gray smoke... but it still goes great and you can hear the turbos

The guy got the turbos redone a few months ago and says they stuffed up the job cos its still blowing smoke... i'm not sure exactly whats wrong but i got it cheap enough so if i need to get the whole engine changed i can afford it.

Any advice?
Any suggested mechanics? i live in brisbane

Any comment would be helpful
cheers
Mustafa Akgul
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NSW
Big Mac

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Tuesday, September 04, 2007 - 10:26 pm, by:  Mustafa Akgul (Muzzy) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

gray is not turbo.if it was turbo it should blow blue smoke.
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
JZZ31

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Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 06:51 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe he means gray/blue?

Grey/white could be a fuel issue or just condensation.
Kim Anthony
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v8

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Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 11:14 am, by:  Kim Anthony (Kma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its definitely white/grey... i've been told my mechanics that white means its a turbo problem? But havent taken the car to a mechanic yet cos i only got it last night.

Don't think it could be condensation, cos theres a lot of smoke.

could it be fuel?

does is sound like its the engine?
Christian Molenda
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QLD
T

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Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 01:00 pm, by:  Christian Molenda (Christof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

or valve stem seals...
James Harris
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Wednesday, September 05, 2007 - 05:40 pm, by:  James Harris (Haro) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

maybe someone filled it with like 20L of oil ?

THAT would make it smoke nicely
Matthew Sharpe
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JZZ31

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Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 06:15 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

But it'd likely be blue smoke then.
Kim Anthony
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Thursday, September 06, 2007 - 10:41 am, by:  Kim Anthony (Kma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I checked the oil to make sure its not over filled. The oil is pretty dirty and i cant be sure but i think there are some specs of metal, like really tiny... is this normal? anyone know wat this means?
Matthew Sharpe
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Friday, September 07, 2007 - 06:34 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No, metal specs are bad. If it is metal shavings, something has, or is in the process of letting go.
Kim Anthony
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Friday, September 07, 2007 - 11:52 am, by:  Kim Anthony (Kma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i've been told that the metal specs could be the result of turbo seals giving way and slipping back into the sump...

I've done a compression test, the engines fine so the smoke is probably the turbos...
Yang Luo
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vic
Turtle

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Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:41 pm, by:  Yang Luo (Steven) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how about black smoke out of my exhaust.
everyday in the morning, i warm up the car, i check out there are some black water from the exhaust, the floor is getting black by the water.
what problem is this.
Gary Morriss
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SA
TT

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 06:01 pm, by:  Gary Morriss (Gaza) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Yang Luo wrote on Friday, September 07, 2007 - 12:41 pm:

how about black smoke out of my exhaust.
everyday in the morning, i warm up the car, i check out there are some black water from the exhaust, the floor is getting black by the water.
what problem is this.




Nothing..condensation..and black smoke, thats fuel
Peter Nitschke
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South Australia
GT4.0 V8

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Thursday, September 13, 2007 - 06:18 pm, by:  Peter Nitschke (Pen) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

The condensation is also washing some of the soot out of the exhaust.
Dave Rose
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wa
uzz31

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Friday, September 14, 2007 - 11:25 am, by:  Dave Rose (Sand_groper) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

kim get the oil +filter changed now, otherwise you will not have an engine at all!
Kim Anthony
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v8

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 09:42 am, by:  Kim Anthony (Kma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cheers mate...

i did the service yesterday... but i'm more concerned as to where the steel shavings are coming from
Luke Burt
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Queensland
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 09:46 am, by:  Luke Burt (Burt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Yeah i'd be suspecting something valve related, your turbo's wouldn't throw off enough shards for you to see it from your dipstick. What type of oil did you put in it? mineral oils and semi synthetic oils can appear to have imperfections.
Ross Pesina
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Soarer TT

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Tuesday, September 18, 2007 - 01:32 pm, by:  Ross Pesina (Ross79) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

When the seels on my turbos went, it smokes a lot at idle, then stops as you drive along. When you back off the throttle it starts to smoke again.
Kim Anthony
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Wednesday, September 19, 2007 - 04:09 pm, by:  Kim Anthony (Kma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

well i just bout the car... so not sure what oil was used... but i changed the oil the other day and ther were some shavings of steel and some specs... i dont think its the turbos anymore... i have no idea what it is...

i'm getting it checked tomorrow...

the engine is running smooth and the compression test came up fine... so i didnt think it was the engine... but i dont know
Kim Anthony
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v8

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Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 07:01 pm, by:  Kim Anthony (Kma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok... i need some more advice

Took it to a mechanic and he thinks its the stem valve seals.

I've read the smoke should be blue if its oil... but the smoke is white... any comments?
Edward Salem
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Thursday, September 20, 2007 - 07:52 pm, by:  Edward Salem (Sydeward) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

how does it run under throttle?
Any cutting out? Missfiring? power loss?
Kim Anthony
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v8

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Friday, September 21, 2007 - 10:49 am, by:  Kim Anthony (Kma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

nope all is fine...

just smoke.

but the greater to load the less the smoke

drive it hard and theres no smoke, at high revs and there is no smoke

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