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Grant Rowan
TryHard QLD jzz30 TT
Posts: 105 Reg: 02-2006
| I have finally got my Hypergear TR44 High Flowed installed. I have had problems with a leak from the back of the intake housing. The turbo took a trip back to Melbourne (under warranty) and now all is good Next on the list is to do the cam belt, tensioner, Adjustable cam gears, water pump & serpentine belt. As she is up for her second 100,00km service. Hopefully all the gear should arrive in two weeks from a group buy. Then its time to tune
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Danny Dinh
TryHard Victoria GT T
Posts: 305 Reg: 11-2005
| you'll find that you need heat shield for the rear housing. Nice engine bay. |
Grant Rowan
TryHard QLD jzz30 TT
Posts: 107 Reg: 02-2006
| Yeah took it for a belt yesterday afternoon. It was 34 degrees in Bris. Popped the bonnet when I got home and the area behind the rear housing was very very hot. One of the rubber hoses was smoking a little. |
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo NSW Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest
Posts: 1540 Reg: 07-2005
| Shouldn't use those hose clamps. They may look nice, but they are so inferior compared to the cheaper looking hose clamps. Basically those clamps can leak under high boost. I agree with danny, get a heat sheild/turbo blanket asap. Other than that looks good, now get down the track after it's tuned |
Scott Ferguson
DieHard Alberta Soarer GTT-L
Posts: 780 Reg: 07-2006
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Benjamin Burgess wrote on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 07:12 am:but they are so inferior compared to the cheaper looking hose clamps. Basically those clamps can leak under high boost.
Any proof of that, T-bolts provide more even pressure and you can tighten them further. Not trying to rag on you just curious if something happened to you with Tbolts? |
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo NSW Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest
Posts: 1542 Reg: 07-2005
| A workshop who builds turbo and supercharger kits for a living. They are just not flexible enough. |
Grant Rowan
TryHard QLD jzz30 TT
Posts: 108 Reg: 02-2006
| Hmmm ok well May have to look at some new clamps. Just the standard screwup type the best? |
Christian Molenda
TryHard QLD T
Posts: 441 Reg: 07-2005
| i have had no heat shield for 1.5 years now.. i dont have any heat issues in my engine bay. mind you im not running very aggressive timing map and i dont think my exhaust housing gets that hot. my car is consistent run after run. also looking at those pics, the t-bolts are only on the intake of the turbo.. who cares if there is a leak there? also cant see why they would leak when so many high power cars / drag teams use them. nice work grant.. this car has come along way since i first saw you at willowbank almost 2 years ago. |
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo NSW Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest
Posts: 1543 Reg: 07-2005
| They are on the other side mate. Umm no high power cars/drag teams use them. They use something that looks like it, but costs 20x the price. I can't find exact details at the moment, don't have time, but they have to be specially fitted to suit the vehicles pipe work. They are NOT t-bolts. |
Adam Holloway
TryHard nsw 1991 soarer single turbo
Posts: 225 Reg: 01-2007
| looks good mate |
Braden Murdoch
DieHard NSW Cressida 1JZ TT
Posts: 698 Reg: 04-2006
| Never had any problems with my T-bolt clamps, I'd be interested to know more about all this |
Christian Molenda
TryHard QLD T
Posts: 443 Reg: 07-2005
| i suppose i should go down and tell craig dyson to take them off his 7 sec car and change them back to garden hose style clams then hey.. your opinion anyway, i just changed to these clamps and yeah they were expensive. If they were 20 times the price they would have been about $170 per clamp. but it didnt ask for any specific thing for my pipe work. You go by the measurements that are specified on the clamps. eg. 82-90mm etc. Since my tune i have had my cooler pipes blow off twice in 2 days. I went and got these clamps and have not had a problem since. |
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo NSW Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest
Posts: 1544 Reg: 07-2005
| 170 per clamp is on the cheap side. I've heard depending on size, from 400-600 per clamp to fit them. They hold massive amounts of boost. If you can find a picture of HKS's drag v8 engine, it has them, so does rotormasters 2jz, and any high end 2jz engine. They look similar to t-bolts, but they are far from a t-bolt. T-bolts are cheap that looks nice. |
Adam Holloway
TryHard nsw 1991 soarer single turbo
Posts: 226 Reg: 01-2007
| i have the same clamps on my car and i have never had a problem. |
Shom Bhattacharjee
TryHard VIC JZZ30 & UZZ32
Posts: 355 Reg: 07-2005
| I agree, to the extent that Ben is referring to Wiggins connectors. Yes, they are significantly better than T-bolts. Yes, they are significantly more expensive. Yes, they are worth it in the drag racing/phenomenal boost setting. I also agree that unless they're seated properly, T-bolts are (IMHO) more prone to leaking than standard jubilee type clamps, and I suspect this has something to do with flexibility. However, get the T-bolts seated right - that is to say, no angles, seemingly even tension across the clamped area - and one shouldn't have a problem. |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo Victoria Twin Turbo
Posts: 1516 Reg: 06-2006
| I am going to have to stick up for the T-Bolt ones. I have been running 17-20psi on my car for the past 18 months with all different types of standard screw type clamps and had nothing but problems, no matter what I did I would be constantly popping cooler pipes with constant boost leaks I tried the T-Bolt ones got them on super tight / even and now run 20psi and haven't had a single leak in months, they kick ass. Rowan, you will easily hear a boost leak, just leave it and see how they go. |
Christian Molenda
TryHard QLD T
Posts: 444 Reg: 07-2005
| point being, unless your going for a 6 second pass, and running 50+psi of boost, the t-bolts should be fine. |
Benjamin Burgess
Goo Roo NSW Toyota Soarer GT-TL, Toyota Corolla Conquest
Posts: 1546 Reg: 07-2005
| no point was jubilee hose clamps are 1/2 the price, easier to fit and don't have sealing problems on angles. You confused wiggins clamps for t-bolts. |
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo Victoria Twin Turbo
Posts: 1517 Reg: 06-2006
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Christian Molenda wrote on Friday, October 05, 2007 - 06:43 pm:the t-bolts should be fine.
Not should be, are |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo NSW TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2405 Reg: 03-2006
| I know NIall at Botany ( mr soarer ) doesnt like those T-Bolt style clamps either... |
Charlie Ters
Tinkerer nsw TT
Posts: 69 Reg: 01-2007
| very nice... i like the 'hypergear' plate on the housing....when i bought mine, he said he ran out of plates at the time ...thats what happens when you get something quickly when its hits the market....(ah well, its sold now, to a better home ).. gotta love your colour scheme |
Richard Baird
TryHard Perth, WA V-Sex
Posts: 371 Reg: 07-2005
| those clamps are ok providing there have the rolled edges and are the "constant" tension type...i.e integral spring... After working on new trucks that run 2 bar day in and day out you soon find out whats crap and whats not.... |
Chris Davey
Goo Roo QLD Corona
Posts: 1487 Reg: 07-2005
| Engine bay looks good Grant. VERY interested to hear how you go on the dyno at track Might be some spots for boostcruising drag day still. Oct 28th Trent & I are racing on that day also BTW my T-bolt clamps have been fine up to 23psi. Just get cooler pipes lipped anyway and no problems |
Grant Rowan
TryHard QLD jzz30 TT
Posts: 109 Reg: 02-2006
| Hopefully I will have the cam gears installed and have it tuned by the 28th. I have given it a few blasts at 19psi and have not noticed any boost leaks as yet. But I will keep an eye on it. |
Cara Joseph
TryHard victoria skyline T
Posts: 266 Reg: 04-2007
| yeah i am using t-bolt clamps also and have not had problems up and untill 23psi but i mite add all my pipes are lipped. |