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Danny Minns
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Queensland
TT

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Monday, October 22, 2007 - 10:52 pm, by:  Danny Minns (Poju89) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok i tried a search and couldn't find anything i'm looking for.

problem is i get a backfire when i change gears, its rather loud and getting annoying.

i only got the car last week, the fella i got it from said he removed the cat when he first got it and it made the noise ever since, but it has a full new exhaust on the car. Its a TT manual from the factory i'm pretty sure, i can check the plate if some one can tell me what all the letter codes mean.

any help is welcome
Brian Timms
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New South Wales
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Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 07:12 am, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

1JZ's have this really funky feature built into the ECU which is the cause of the problem, mine does it to, and you mainly only get it with cannon or large diameter mufflers.

What happens is the engine builds up power as you accelerate, and when it comes time for the auto to change gears, you get something like the following happen:

Auto: Hey ECU, I wanna change gears!
ECU: Sure Auto, give me half a nanosecond to sort my crap
ECU: Engine, Auto wants to change gears!
Engine: Sure ECU, wadda ya want me to do?
ECU: Retard your timing a bit hey
Engine: Why?
ECU Cause you got to much torque and power, Auto is soft and might get hurt
Engine: Sure, retarding timing!
Engine: Done ECU
ECU: Cool, Auto, you hear that?
Auto: Yeah, thanks, changing now!
Exhaust: Burble/farting noise!
Auto: Ok, changed gears
ECU: Thanks Auto, hey engine, re-advance your timing
Engine: thanks ECU, advancing timing

And this is all done within a second or so, but the engine retards it's timing briefly to remove the huge amount of power being delivered to the gearbox in order for a smoother safer change of gears.

Best way to fix this is a shift kit from MV Auto's in SA.

B.

P.S. I am still drunk from last night if you didn't guess it from the post :p
Kyle Wathen
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GTTL

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Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 10:04 am, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Brian Timms wrote on Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 07:12 am:

P.S. I am still drunk from last night if you didn't guess it from the post :p




You must be Brian because you missed this bit


Danny Minns wrote on Monday, October 22, 2007 - 10:52 pm:

Its a TT manual from the factory i'm pretty sure


Danny Minns
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Queensland
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Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 05:55 pm, by:  Danny Minns (Poju89) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah its a manual but good try

could it still be the timing just when i jump off the accelerator same kind of thing happens?

the fella said that its done it ever since he removed the cat and now it has a complete exhaust system on it. maybe the new mufflers are sending it weird.
Brian Timms
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Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 10:30 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah, doesn't sound like a factory manual (and yeah, was rather drunk from last night, it was yr 12 formal, and lucky me managed to find himself in the afterparties in the townsville casino, so got merily plastered).

If it's got ECU engine retarding, it has an auto ecu (easy to check, pull the passenger carpet back, remove the kickboard cover and see what the ECU sticker says.

B.
Chris Prak
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WA
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Tuesday, October 23, 2007 - 11:17 pm, by:  Chris Prak (Carizma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Any other mods? Is it a pop or bang? Any flames?
Matthew Sharpe
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North Island
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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 06:25 am, by:  Matthew Sharpe (Madmatt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Most likely cause is overly rich mixture. Cats do require a slightly rich mixture to run properly so it could just be that having the cat out is allowing enough fuel through.

Ignition timing is a possibility also.

Another possibility is poor ignition not fully burning the available fuel.

Its probably a mix of several things causing it.

Whatever is causing it, too much unburnt fuel is reaching the end of the exhaust and igniting when it hits the open air.
Charlie Ters
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nsw
TT

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 08:21 am, by:  Charlie Ters (Ul05st) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

....this poping as well always increases with pod filters as well.... any chance you have one of these?
Danny Minns
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Queensland
TT

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Wednesday, October 24, 2007 - 06:12 pm, by:  Danny Minns (Poju89) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah it has FMIC, 3inch (i believe) system, pod filter and there is no auto ecu.... has a linkplus in the glovebox. also has hi-flow steelwheel turbos.

the car has been tuned on a dyno and had something along the lines of a back off when changing gears and what not.

I think i might just have to live with the sound
Enzo Seidl
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NSW
TT

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Sunday, April 15, 2012 - 07:37 am, by:  Enzo Seidl (Enzoisamazing) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

LOL brian, nice explination for the gear retarding xD.

Mate, it wouldn't happen to just be the way your shifting would it?
Sounds strangly similar to what my mate experiences when he puts his foot on the accelerator before the clutch is fully disengaged, and it gives off a pop/bang/ possible flame depending on if the exhaust is real hot.

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