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Charlie Ters
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 01:00 pm, by: Charlie Ters (Ul05st)

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Last week i fitted my new marlew (lew) exhaust system (dumps and all

).... anyways

i started up the car, to see a busted oil drain line, so i got that fixed...

i then drive it for the first time, sounds good, only 12.5psi... (leaking vacuum)

after 10 minutes of spirited driving, the car has a ticking sound... so i have a lifter a bit sticky.... but it dissappears, however, here is where all the problems start

the car feels like its a N/A, and will not boost past 0psi!, and yes, there are no leaking cooler lines, idle is fine, but no boost.....

no ecu diagnostic error codes were found, however, i noticed the timing sitting at 5 deg (i think minus), what i want to ask is has anybody noticed this before, is my car in 'Limp mode'..... any idea will help, as my car is being checked on the dyno as we speak, but your help may save me $$$$$ worth of wasted time labour

Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 05:17 pm, by: Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain)

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Not limp mode.. You have Blown an Intercooler Pipe off

:-)

Check all of the intercooler pipes and clamps before investigating any further.

Charlie Ters
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Wednesday, December 19, 2007 - 09:30 pm, by: Charlie Ters (Ul05st)

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ill double check these tommorow, as they were checked by 3 people so far, only problem is the car revs to 3000rpm, and starts choking power wise from there (it may be the timing retarding)....

Brian Timms
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Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 07:48 am, by: Brian Timms (Turbo_brian)

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if you get to 3,000rpm without boost, then there is a boost leak somewhere for sure!!!! Check everything fromt he turbo back, but it's definately loosing boost, they should be starting to go into positive boost at 1,900rpm.

If you get to 3,000rpm without any issues but then get problems, check the fuel pump, jumper B+ and FP in the enginebay diag port and take the car for another spin to see if there is a problem. If said problem goes away, then you need to look at a fuel pump fairly soon.

If the above doesn't help you out, then I am currently out of ideas.

B.

Charlie Ters
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Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 09:42 pm, by: Charlie Ters (Ul05st)

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car came of the dyno test today...nothing found, all clamps were secure,

:-(

i may have an open wastegate.... i think if the fuel computer was to blame, then it may have appeared on the diagnostics, also the car idles fine.....
2 more inspections left, and ill go hypergear tr44hf setup (again, i sold one a few months back)...

:-(

Charlie Ters
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Thursday, December 20, 2007 - 09:44 pm, by: Charlie Ters (Ul05st)

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.. if a turbo is the case, then i will have a set of lews dumps for sale, with a genuiene 10mins use on them

:-)

Lew Radbourn
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Friday, December 21, 2007 - 11:10 am, by: Lew Radbourn (Marlew)

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Charlie;
work back through what you have done to the car.
was it running fine before fitting the exhaust?
if so;
check your crank angle sensor wires and O2 sensor wires
look at you spec sticker under the bonnet
it reads 10deg before top dead centre.
if you are only reading 5 it may not be getting a correct signal
and seeing how you have had the front turbo off to fit the dumps you have to disconnect the 2 plugs(O2 and crank) to get it off.
it will make the car miss fire at around 3000rpm.
also while your there lookingat wires check out the cam angle wires as well thay seem to break lately.
good luck mate

Lew Radbourn
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Friday, December 21, 2007 - 11:11 am, by: Lew Radbourn (Marlew)

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no boost could be an actuator failure

Shaun Stephenson
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Friday, December 21, 2007 - 11:12 am, by: Shaun Stephenson (Neonasty)

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I can sell you my TR44HF set up if you want it.

:-)

Im more keen on track days rather than drag racing now.

:-)

Charlie Ters
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Sunday, December 23, 2007 - 08:51 pm, by: Charlie Ters (Ul05st)

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did the fuel pump bypass trick...still no boost, 100% no leaking cooler pipes, however, i did notice, when i pulled the intercooler pipe near the turbo, and revved the car a bit, the blowing air pressure from the turbos wasnt much (something an ebay electronic supercharger or a vaccum cleaner will give)

......

once step closer to a single......
(anyone know of a good mechanic in sydney who knows what a bloody soarer is?

George Funa
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Tuesday, December 25, 2007 - 01:36 am, by: George Funa (Fun001)

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Nial 9666 6364 at Botany will sort it out

Braden Murdoch
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Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 02:18 pm, by: Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast)

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Could be a blown turbo

:-(

Any oil smoke out of the exhaust?

Charlie Ters
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Thursday, December 27, 2007 - 09:46 pm, by: Charlie Ters (Ul05st)

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i gotta admmit, there is a bit of smoke...., tons more when i rev the car though...

:-(

Braden Murdoch
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Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:54 am, by: Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast)

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One way to check is to block off the outlet of one of the turbos and see if you get some boost back. If it's still zero boost, block the outlet of the other turbo and try again. If you all of a sudden have boost, then you've popped a turbo. I wouldn't advise driving it around like that though, as you'll have 1 turbo trying to do all the work.

When I popped my ceramic front turbo, all the boost made by the rear turbo was going straight back out the front turbo, and the car would spew out burning oil smoke whenever I tried to rev it. It didn't want to rev much either, getting it past around 3-4k was a real struggle, redline was pretty much unachievable.

Dave Billings
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Friday, December 28, 2007 - 04:16 pm, by: Dave Billings (Waveman1717)

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Do y'all have injectors? My N/A did the same thing until 6 new injectors later.

Charlie Ters
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Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:39 pm, by: Charlie Ters (Ul05st)

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Braden Murdoch wrote on Friday, December 28, 2007 - 11:54 am:
car would spew out burning oil smoke whenever I tried to rev it. It didn't want to rev much either, getting it past around 3-4k was a real struggle, redline was pretty much unachievable.

..... so true thats my car now

... hopefully ill get a 4th opinion at a workshop before going for some lag monster....

Daniel Clarke
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Saturday, December 29, 2007 - 09:49 am, by: Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain)

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I think when people remove the turbos and replace them, they dont take enough care with the oil lines....

I have seen a few people bend them without knowing, thus reducing oil supply and in turn, killing the turbo.. OR they use too much gasket goo and block the oil feed line...

Both are bad things. If/when you remove your turbos again, check to see if the metal oil feed lines have been kinked and flattened out.

Braden Murdoch
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Monday, December 31, 2007 - 10:30 am, by: Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast)

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I think that is quite possibly the reason for many of the china CT12A copies blowing up personally. People not installing them correctly.

Charlie Ters
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Monday, December 31, 2007 - 06:18 pm, by: Charlie Ters (Ul05st)

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....Big single has been ordered

:-(

.... didnt even have a 'feel' for a full lew exhaust system (only for 5 minutes, and it sounded like a supra from FNF)

..... ah well, dumps will be for sale very shortly

Justin Camilleri
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Monday, December 31, 2007 - 06:37 pm, by: Justin Camilleri (Just)

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It will sound more like the fnf supra after the turbo has been fitted, ready to go!

Adrain Parsons
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Monday, December 31, 2007 - 07:46 pm, by: Adrain Parsons (Ace1975)

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first dibs on the dumps!!

Charlie Ters
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Tuesday, January 08, 2008 - 10:18 pm, by: Charlie Ters (Ul05st)

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... a bit of progress.... i booked the car for tuesday to begin the hypergear transplant (although im still waiting for the stuff)

, as i was removing the turbos, i was still unsure if it was my turbos that had died, until i stumbled across this beauty.....

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this only means the wheel is now stuck in my new catalyic converter

, ah well, ill probably empty it soon......

Braden Murdoch
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Monday, February 04, 2008 - 10:52 am, by: Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast)

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That looks familiar, just like my turbo did

:-(

Ended up putting in some steelies. Found the exhaust wheel in my cat.

Sometimes I hate being right

:-(

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