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Pierre Dedye
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NSW
1jz TT Manual

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 11:04 am, by:  Pierre Dedye (Ezg04u) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Well i just wanted to say that i am totaly in love with my soarer right now

Last friday i got a Greddy Profec B installed in my car and a HKS SSQV.

Anyways on stock boost (which was at 12) i was getting 179RWKW, now im running 15 getting 224.8RWKW.

I just have to say im sorry for all those skyline boys who have to spend thousands of $$$$ just to break the 200RWKW barrier.

TT SOARERS FTMFW
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 02:07 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dyno sheet?
Jason Underwood
TryHard
W.A
Manual V8 UZZ31

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 02:33 pm, by:  Jason Underwood (Jay666) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I'm with Luke, that seems like a huge power figure for the mods you have listed.
You sure it's not rwhp?
Blake Gloyn
TryHard
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 07:54 pm, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

the 224.8rwkw is about the same power as a auto trans equipped soarer getting 204rwkw,so it's not excessively high. though a stock manual rarely reads over 150-160 on a dyno dynamics dyno. 180 for a stocker is high.Anyway , who cares? Run it down the quarter or on a g-tech pierre,we'll be interested in the results.And yes, modifying the 1jz is rewarding... :-)
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
GT30/37r Single T

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 08:39 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not sure on that figure's also.
My car standard was 156kw's and with the same mods as you but only 13psi I managed to get 180kw's.

I had Pod filter,3inch exhaust with dump pipe and Fmic,Greddy cam gear set to -6.5, Cheap ebay DD steel wheel turbo's (they blew up not long after).I also had a SAFCII installed and leaned to get a dyno figure of 223.5rwkw's at 18psi.My car is auto.

I don't dought you but that is high.Well done on the other hand as this is an awesome figure for so little mods.You may just have a freak engine.
Justin Camilleri
DieHard
QLD
Had a 85 MZ10, 92 TT, Now 91 TT

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 09:01 pm, by:  Justin Camilleri (Just) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I wish I had a freak engine!
Luke Cairns
Tinkerer
victoria
Soarer Turbo

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Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 10:53 pm, by:  Luke Cairns (Soarer350) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it might be i made 234 psi with a auto soarer with stock turbos on 14 psi dyno sheets to prove it
Pierre Dedye
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NSW
1jz TT Manual

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 10:57 am, by:  Pierre Dedye (Ezg04u) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I also have front mount and zorst.... unless your engines are in bad condition its easy to get that power figure.
My mates JZX90 is making 233.6 RWKW with same mods + mines ECU

Here is my dyno sheet for you non believers.



And here is my mates JZX90



So if you still dont believe me.... shame on all of you....
Maybe you should go buy a skyline
Shaun Chiew
Tinkerer
VIC
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 12:14 pm, by:  Shaun Chiew (Senk9) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nice figures mate, just goes to show the potential of the 1J's!
Pierre Dedye
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NSW
1jz TT Manual

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 01:47 pm, by:  Pierre Dedye (Ezg04u) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

cheers man, now all i need is a new manifold and i should be able to run 17 thru it and get close to 250.
Blake Gloyn
TryHard
manawatu
soarer JZZ30 TT

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 02:29 pm, by:  Blake Gloyn (Blakenz) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

oh pierre, the "maybe you should go buy a skyline" comment was a little harsh!!! :-) tell us about why you have a need for a new manifold? inlet/ exhaust? do you feel there is a restriction?
Kamran Malik
Newbie
NSW
JZX90 TT

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 03:29 pm, by:  Kamran Malik (Psikazi) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i am pierres mate with the jzx90... by manifold he means dumps / front pipe :-)
Pierre Dedye
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1jz TT Manual

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 03:47 pm, by:  Pierre Dedye (Ezg04u) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

^ What he said. I'm a noob...
Jeff Smith
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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 04:36 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Pierre Dedye wrote on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 10:57 am:

Maybe you should go buy a skyline



That was not needed,You don't even know some of us! I was only going of what my figure's were and I also said,

Jeff Smith wrote on Tuesday, January 22, 2008 - 08:39 pm:

Well done on the other hand as this is an awesome figure for so little mods.You may just have a freak engine.



I was congratulating you!
There is two different thing's here and that's
1.Mine is auto
2.My car is a GTT-L(luxury pack) A little heavier.
On the dyno for an auto you have to run up to 110kph before you open the throttle right up in third so you don't kick down to second.
Were as manuel you can mash the throttle all the way in third gear.Wether this might explain the different power figures I don't know but something that may explain.

I agree with you on the statement regarding the skyline(GTS-t) boy's having to spend a lot of money to get the figure's the 1j can get.My brother has a r33 gts-t and spent $17,000 on engine mods to get to 297kw's @ 19psi.He ditched the standard turbo and put on a gt35/40.
Jeff Smith
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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 04:41 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Kamran!
Well done on the dyno for you both!
17psi spike then drops down to 14psi.....Boost tee?
Pierre! Are you running a aftermarket ECU or FCD?
I would think you would be hitting boost cut at 15psi.
Pierre Dedye
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NSW
1jz TT Manual

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 04:52 pm, by:  Pierre Dedye (Ezg04u) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I have a fuel cut and speed cut defender. Still stock ECU.

i agree with the auto, but on the dyno weight should not matter that much. The run was done in 4th gear.

Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
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GT30/37r Single T

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 05:06 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That explains why you have 224kw's.We didn't know that.That is why the dought was there.Without that "224kw's" would have been very hard to get.
Pierre Dedye
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NSW
1jz TT Manual

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 05:14 pm, by:  Pierre Dedye (Ezg04u) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ok.... so we can clear this all up and all be friends

Its a TT Manual Soarer

Mods are as follows

. Performance
Frontmount
Pod Filter
3.5" Cat Back Zorst
Speed and Fuel Cut Defender
Profec B II boost controler set to 13lo and 15hi
HKS SSQV BOV

. Handling
Adjustable Coilovers
Front Tower brace
Rear Swaybar
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
NSW
GT30/37r Single T

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 05:27 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had similer mods except the FCD(I had a apexi SAFCII) And got a dyno figure of 223kw's at 13psi.Dyno pic is avaliable if you wan't to see it.
Michael Keen
TryHard
nsw
soarer tt

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 07:22 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Jeff Smith wrote on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 05:06 pm:

That explains why you have 224kw's.We didn't know that.That is why the dought was there.Without that "224kw's" would have been very hard to get.




can you explain this? what explains his power figure..

cheers i just a little lost. i will be dynoing mine soon. with the twin gt17's running 15psi.. if i get mid 200's i'm chearing cause it cost me 700 bucks :-)
Daniel Clarke
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NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 07:48 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Jeff you got 180rwkw on 13psi with those mods :-)
Jeff Smith
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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 08:36 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry Dan you are right!
Jeff Smith
Goo Roo
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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 08:37 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I was thinking the 18psi ebay steel wheel crap.Hahahaha
Jeff Smith
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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 08:43 pm, by:  Jeff Smith (Mozzie) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Michael Keen wrote on Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 07:22 pm:

can you explain this? what explains his power figure



Dan can explain the FCD better.
The SAFCII leans and adds fuel were it's needed.Give's a little more power.
But you still need an after market ECU to avoid the boost cut.
The FCD doe's a similar thing,The bonus is you don't need a aftermarket ecu to avoid the boost cut.The FCD will do that for you.The FCD tricks the ecu that it is running a lower boost and air/fuel mixture changed aswell.
Shaun Chiew
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VIC
Soarer TT

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Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - 08:50 pm, by:  Shaun Chiew (Senk9) Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If i recall, FCD works by clamping the boost value that the ECU records to a certain number. The boost sensor the ECU uses gives out a certain voltage, and FCD allows this voltage to raise/lower so that the ECU can still lean/richen the mixture, but once it goes above a certain value, it'll hold it at that max value, so it doesn't hit the cut off point that's programmed into the factory ECU.

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