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Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland / Gold coast
jzs147 93 TT / uzz30 93'/ 2 X uzz31 92' s
Posts: 2407
Reg: 07-2005
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Unless you send the whole kit up here and i make you a set
i have the flange plates already
that is the only way to get a set
so the long and short of it is Roller bearing centers and use the dumps i all ready can make with out having the whole kit up here |
Scott Gates
TryHard
SA
TT
Posts: 172
Reg: 03-2007
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If i go with the Hybrids i will have Lew's dumps all good to go on, and if i go with Muz's T3G's i will get his dumps with them.
So that really isn't a issue. |
Scott Gates
TryHard
SA
TT
Posts: 173
Reg: 03-2007
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But in the end it looks like the Hybrids may be the winner in my case.
Will make a final choice this week hopefully.
Then i will have to find out what other mods i would need to support. |
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder
Posts: 2935
Reg: 03-2006
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Yes the t3g's come with their own dumps but i dont know if they are still " a restriction" as they were designed to just fit with the system and bolt up to the stock exhaust.
Lew might know? Much difference with Lews custom dumps on a set of T3G's Mate? |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Posts: 3124
Reg: 01-2005
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the T3G manifolds are different too arn't they???
And flow a lot better than the stockies.... |
Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland / Gold coast
jzs147 93 TT / uzz30 93'/ 2 X uzz31 92' s
Posts: 2408
Reg: 07-2005
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Daniel;
No mate my dumps do not fit the T3G exhaust snail
i have the plates to make them But need the complete system here to make them off.
Rob;
Yer mate thay are slightly bigger Not a massive amount though.
Thay also have a T25 turbo plate on them so it is slightly a bigger hole to blow in.hehehehe
May be you might be able to sell off the ported set of stock manifolds you have |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Posts: 3126
Reg: 01-2005
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They are already sold.... Mark is gonna have em on his car soon! 
Now he just needs the cams hehehehe |
Luke Burt
TryHard
Queensland
Soarer TT
Posts: 151
Reg: 08-2007
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Ah ok, so custom dumps for the Ct12A's won't fit the T3G's, i follow you now. So scott yeah if you already have custom dumps for your Ct12A's, they would be better flowing than the T3G one. It was quite a lot larger than the standard dump on the internal diameter, but i wouldnt call it as free flowing as lews dumps. The T3G's also come with slightly bigger exhaust manifolds.
But yes, for peace of mind, good performance, and reliability you can trust, being brand new.. I'd go the rollers, considering you already have lews dumps to fit etc. |
Scott Gates
TryHard
SA
TT
Posts: 175
Reg: 03-2007
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I still have to get down to ATS some time this week to talk to Bill about them. So will hopefully have made decision by friday. |
Robert Whitbread
Tinkerer
SA
A70 Supra with 1JZ Conversion
Posts: 42
Reg: 09-2006
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Scott I had a friend chat to Bill about doing this stuff yesterday, he gets a lot of work done though Bill and knows him very well. Bill said he would put GT28 cores in, would be $1650 per turbo and you would need new water/oil lines.
Power wise he expects you would get around 290rwkw. That is using a realistic dyno too. |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Posts: 3128
Reg: 01-2005
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290 ia a dream without the supporting mods....
here are some pics of the turbos..
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Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland / Gold coast
jzs147 93 TT / uzz30 93'/ 2 X uzz31 92' s
Posts: 2414
Reg: 07-2005
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Boo boo
May be around 241.3rwkw on a hot day on stock injectors and fuel only management.hehehehehehehehehehehe
been there done that...... NOT GOOD....... |
Robert Whitbread
Tinkerer
SA
A70 Supra with 1JZ Conversion
Posts: 43
Reg: 09-2006
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The turbos are capable of producing up to around 290rwkw. |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Posts: 3129
Reg: 01-2005
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they can do more than that Robert.... |
Scott Gates
TryHard
SA
TT
Posts: 176
Reg: 03-2007
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Hmm that's strange i cannot seem to quote from previous page...
Andrew Meiers said: "The GT28 cored ones have a very linear power delivery and have reliably produced 280-320 rwkw depending on your setup."
Is that correct or Rob are you still willing to challenge?
GCG said i could get them for $3000 the pair today.... sweet 
GCG said they dropped the price as Garrett dropped theirs. But GCG said they had to raise again a bit from $1500 each to $1650 as they are a lot of work.
The end is near and looks like Hybrids may just win.
Stay tuned... |
Robert Whitbread
Tinkerer
SA
A70 Supra with 1JZ Conversion
Posts: 44
Reg: 09-2006
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Bill will do the same cores Scott as GCG for the same price.. and you save on the postage over and the $55 postage back (quote from GCG). |
Scott Gates
TryHard
SA
TT
Posts: 177
Reg: 03-2007
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Robert are you sure he would?
I am working down that way tomorrow so i can drop in then anyway. |
Robert Whitbread
Tinkerer
SA
A70 Supra with 1JZ Conversion
Posts: 45
Reg: 09-2006
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Yep pretty sure that is what he told my friend (who has his Supra there at the moment). GT28 cores for $1650ea.
Wasn't that what you listed in the price guide a few pages back anyway?.. the hybrid quote. |
Scott Gates
TryHard
SA
TT
Posts: 178
Reg: 03-2007
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Yeah the original quote from ATS was $1650 each and i got a new quote from GCG for $1500 each.
Are you saying that he would do it for $1500 each?
Or are you saying that he would do them for $1650 each? |
Robert Whitbread
Tinkerer
SA
A70 Supra with 1JZ Conversion
Posts: 46
Reg: 09-2006
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Bill would do them for $1650. Postage each way would be about $55 to GCG. So Bill would be about $190 more I guess if GCG can do for $1500 a piece.
Didn't they say they (GCG) were raising their price to $1650 though?, or they are and they gave you a once off special price? |
Scott Gates
TryHard
SA
TT
Posts: 179
Reg: 03-2007
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Hey what is the difference between GT28 and GT2860R?
Anything or is it just extra information?
GCG has confused me..... first quote was $1650 inc and then they said they could do it for me for $1500.
I dropped past Bill at ATS on my way home, he gave GCG a ring to check the quote and they said it was excluding GST. Which therefore both quotes come to $3300. lol
Am going back down there tomorrow morning before BDO  to sort it out. |
Lew Radbourn
Trader
Queensland / Gold coast
jzs147 93 TT / uzz30 93'/ 2 X uzz31 92' s
Posts: 2417
Reg: 07-2005
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Scott; Mate just trust Bill's knowledge.
He will not steer you wrong.
I send my turbo's to him to rebuild and when buying new ones as well.
last time i was in Adeliade i poped in to see him just to let him know i was still around.hehehehehe |
Robert Whitbread
Tinkerer
SA
A70 Supra with 1JZ Conversion
Posts: 47
Reg: 09-2006
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Yep id go with Bill, he's local, he has been in the business for years, and you save on postage at the same time
I don't understand that GCG quote, why would they give a quote excluding GST. Pointless.
Not sure what the core difference are re above, but you know who to ask |
Shane McInnes
Goo Roo
NSW
JZZ30 GT-TL Manual
Posts: 1191
Reg: 07-2005
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Some info about making the power with these turbos or any turbos.
You wont crack 290+rwkw unless you have all the surporting mods.
As i said before Manny produced 340rwkw on the GCG Hybrid turbos. But he had all the mods to make that kinda power.
Its not cheap to achieve that amount of power.
I currently have made 270rwkw on the ATS Hybrids and its costed me plenty of money.
Its not as simple as wacking these turbos on and boosting them.
You will need some sorta ECU managment something along the lines of a Emange Ultimate or in my case a Power Fc, 440cc Injectors, Cam Gears, Exhaust/Dump Pipe, FMIC, EBC, Bov to handle the boost and a good tune. That got me to 270rwkw. To get to 290+rwkw you will need, Fuel pump, Cams, 550cc Injectors, HKS Dli System, good spark plugs.
Then when you make decent power your gonna have to think about your gearbox, the standard gearbox can only handle 260-270rwkw.
Plus if you have a single spinner diff it wont last long you will need to get a LSD.
So thats roughly what you will need to get the most out of these turbos or any upgradable turbo. |
Rob Andreacchio
Goo Roo
Victoria
Posts: 3130
Reg: 01-2005
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spot on there Shane....
hence my point about being able to make more than 290... not cheap... but it can be done!
I was making 300 with a significant boost leak at the manifold and a cooler that was not sufficient for the setup.... |
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