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Aaron Mead
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 11:24 am, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey all, just wondering if the JZX90 factory toyota ECU will run a JZZ30 Soarer? I am manualising my auto completely and dont want any interference from the factory ecu when communicating with the Haltech.

I know that the Power FC units are shared (JZZ30/JZX90 Ppower FC is the same part number/box).

Will the JZX90 manual ECU run the Soarer dash display and AC properly etcc.???
Andrew Meiers
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Victoria
TT

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 04:05 pm, by:  Andrew Meiers (Acmtt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yes
Aaron Mead
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 05:56 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Orrrrighhht! Giggidy giggidy etc..
Brian Timms
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TT Soarer Goodness.

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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 06:21 pm, by:  Brian Timms (Turbo_brian) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmmm, this will be awesome, I am looking at manualising my JZ30 shortly as well.

B.
Neil Griffiths
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 06:52 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Aaron,
Just run a shift controller box ( $250 ) and a Pro-Ratchet type shifter ( B&M $300 ) as this will have N lockout.

Then just use the JZZ30 Harness to JUST run the Haltech.

AT box is only 3"x 2" x 1"
Aaron Mead
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:24 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Got the shift box from MV wired up in the soarer on the old gearbox at the moment. In that configuration, we have the Haltech running as a piggy back. I bought Ben Burgess' gearbox off him and will send it down to MV for an inspection and a full manualised modification as well some other massaging of the valve body.

Having a bit of trouble getting the Haltech to run in standalone mode at the moment.
Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 07:56 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hmm, not sure you would bother sending it.. it hasnet done many km's since its rebuild, and was built for bens car without any issues. suppose it doesnt hurt.
Aaron Mead
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 08:31 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not doubting the gearbox, but if the sprag or 4th gear clutches are a little funky itd be good to change em out now while its out of the car and the cars off the road.

The 1.5JZ i bought has about 10,000kms on it, but im still giving it a new water pump and timing belt.
Daniel Clarke
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 08:44 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

for sure man.. prevention cheaper than a cure!
Aaron Mead
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Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 09:25 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yeah just a few preventative measures.....and all new genuine:

*alternator
*coil paclks
*power steering pump
*intake oil pickup gasket
*exhaust manifold gasket
*intake manifold gasket
*SPL engine mounts
*valve cover gaskets
*half moon gaskets
*coil pack connectors
*50mm GT II wastegate
*screamer pipe
*800cc injectors (going sequential!!)
*DLI
*T04z .84
*tailshaft coupling
*intercooler
*radiator

you know, just in case :-)
Christian Molenda
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T

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Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 07:56 am, by:  Christian Molenda (Christof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Neil Griffiths wrote on Wednesday, February 20, 2008 - 06:52 pm:

Pro-Ratchet type shifter ( B&M $300 ) as this will have N lockout




you mean Reverse lockout.. can still grab neutral with it without lifting the red lever.

Good shifter but.. I run one in mine
Neil Griffiths
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Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 06:49 pm, by:  Neil Griffiths (Aussiesc) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Christian Molenda wrote on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 07:56 am:

can still grab neutral with it




Well you have installed it wrong mate.

I am locked out of P / R / N.

Fruitless having it if you can pop N on the upshift.
Aaron Mead
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Friday, February 22, 2008 - 06:47 am, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Soarer with a Pro Ratchet? Grunty!!!

I might have to powder coat the shifter black :-)

Anyone got a photo of one installed? I didnt think it would be possible to do so without tearing up the interior :-)
Christian Molenda
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Friday, February 22, 2008 - 08:13 am, by:  Christian Molenda (Christof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)


Neil Griffiths wrote on Thursday, February 21, 2008 - 06:49 pm:

Well you have installed it wrong mate.




Umm nope....


its how it works. doesnt matter if its in the car or sitting in the box brand new. still does the same thing.

its designed like this so that if you have a breakage you can get to neutral if you need to.



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Aaron Mead
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Friday, February 22, 2008 - 11:52 am, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Holy sh*t that looks GOOD! That really looks f*cking tough. I didnt realise they would sit so snug.

I know nothing if these units, except for the one time I went for a spin in a buick powered HiLux. I love the way the ratchet works, forward>forward>forward> etc...

I assume that my mechanic, being of the pushrod variety would know how to set up and fit this. But Id sure as hell like to know more myself!

How do you trigger overdrive? And what about coming back down the gears as you pull up at the lights? In my old setup, I had to always be careful to disengage overdrive when going back to first or second, otherwise it'd take off from third and would no doubt fry the box on a firm launch. Never happened, but still worries me. I mean, I couldnt let a person even shift the car for me, for fear they would destroy my gearbox :-)

This is really giving me wood right now. I like it!! :-)
Daniel Clarke
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Friday, February 22, 2008 - 02:42 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Christian.. Neil has one installed in one of his cars, so i think he would know what its " meant " to be doing :-)
Ben Lipman
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Soarer TT manual

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Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 08:31 pm, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Not wanting to be a smart arse, but...

From Christian's Profile-" Accessories: Custom interior re-trim, body kit, 20" wheels, custom b&m shifter, selection of guages"

It appears he has one fitted also. This may or may not be supported by his photo above.

But I am interested. I assume they'd go into an Aristo just as easily?
Daniel Clarke
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Saturday, February 23, 2008 - 10:28 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Ben, what i meant was, it was Christians 1st attempt at one, and Neil has done many and seen many in his day :-)
Ben Lipman
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Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 09:21 am, by:  Ben Lipman (Ben12a) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No blood, no foul. I just saw a chance to be cheeky.
Daniel Clarke
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Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 04:26 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All good,lol, I just wanted to emind neil HE IS NOT YOUNG:-)
Michael Keen
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Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 07:33 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i reckon if i seen a car with that, i would be like no way, i aint racing that thing. hehe it just looks like holy you got sum serious power. ehe
Lew Radbourn
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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 09:57 am, by:  Lew Radbourn (Marlew) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Christian
Mate mine in the van i can't get past drive with out lifting the lever
Mate you may have a drama with yours
Christian Molenda
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Tuesday, February 26, 2008 - 01:36 pm, by:  Christian Molenda (Christof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

No dramas lew..

its called reverse lockout.. not neutral lockout.

"Single hand operated reverse lockout feature meets NHRA & IRHA requirements " (google b&m pro ratchet and read specs.)

My mate has one in his car also and its exactly the same. His was put in by boxstop automatics and his car is running 9's. I guess they know what they are doing with transmissions.

When installing these you have to move a pin inside to have them work properly for a 3 speed gearbox... as thats what ours are + an overdrive.

I just hope that you dont throw a rod out the side of your block at 150mph and then find yourself net being able to grab neutral to stop your wheels locking up.

oh and when moving down gears, the red lever lowers when you go into drive. but you can go back to neutral from drive without lifting it again.

Anyway my 2c and if you guys think i am still wrong then let it be.

I know you are probably the 2 best soarer mechanics in the country and your words will be heard over mine.
Aaron Mead
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Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 12:34 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Hey Christian, did you make that Shifter surround out of your old factory auto surround? Im looking at mine now and trying to work out what to do with it for the pro ratchet.
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Saturday, May 09, 2009 - 08:19 pm, by:  James Livas (Falcon) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

By the way, I second Christian's comment, I have a B&M ratchet in my 'other' car (megashifter not a pro-ratchet) and you are able to ratchet into neutral but not reverse. To grab reverse after ratcheting to neutral, you need to ratchet back to drive and pull the pin.

Definitely a safety feature!
Aaron Mead
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Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 06:56 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cool. I put mine in the console the other day. Realised that perhaps the reason Neil might have it hooked up for neutral lockout is that he has it set up for 2 speed (powerglide) use /configuration which means there is an extra blockout pin installed. This would give you 1st then shift into 2nd, then shift into 3rd, then BLOCK.

The fact that the pro ratchet has provision for TWO park gates means the second park gate ( the furtherest) is used for Park, where as the rest of us have the double park gate BLOCKOUT pin installed, meaning only one 'click' to get it into park as well.
Aaron Mead
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Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 06:57 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Horses for sourses I guess, some will want and NEED the neutral locked out for their applications, others will prefer to have neutral available at will.
Aaron Mead
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Saturday, May 16, 2009 - 06:57 pm, by:  Aaron Mead (Aaron) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Courses dammit.
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