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David Wilson
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Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 08:31 pm, by:  David Wilson (Davieeeee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Just wondering what prices people have been quoted to have their power steering and alternator replaced?
Mines leaked and killed the alternator as usual. I would normally do it myself but these days i just dont have the time anymore.
Michael Keen
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Sunday, February 24, 2008 - 09:45 pm, by:  Michael Keen (Spoilt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when you say powersteering, do you just mean the pump? i wonder how the power steering pump has leaked , and damaged your alternator when they are on opposite sides?
Chris Prak
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Monday, February 25, 2008 - 01:31 am, by:  Chris Prak (Carizma) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Maybe you mean the starter motor?

It really depends how you want to go about it, if you want to just rebuild it or replace with a new or second hand one.

Workshops charge approx $50-$90 (depending who) per hour so just take it from there. I'd guess around 4 hours labour alone to change. Don't forget the parts pricing on top of that.
David Wilson
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Monday, February 25, 2008 - 02:27 pm, by:  David Wilson (Davieeeee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Sorry I meant the starter motor. After spending a good few hours diagnosing the battery/terminal/alternator/starter motor etc I started to lose my mind hehe.

Thanks for the info Chris.
So far starter motor looks to be about $175 brand new. After thinking about it I think im going to have to do this myself, its just going to cost too much in labour to have this done by a mechanic.

Does anyone know of anythin in particular I should pay attention to when removing and reinstalling the pump/reservior/starter. Looks fairly straight forward from what I saw but Ive learnt to never underestimate Soarers!
Christian Molenda
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Monday, February 25, 2008 - 03:10 pm, by:  Christian Molenda (Christof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

power steering pump is easy to remove. From memory there are 3 bolts holding it in. Can get rebuild kits for about $80 + $10 for a new bearing. Most likely it is just an o-ring that leaks and that is from the line from the resivour where it goes into the pump. Saves having to rebuild the whole thing.

I have a spare one of these o-rings at home as i just replaced mine. Dont use rubber o-rings as they wont last long with oil on them.

Once you got it all back together just bleed the air out by having front jacked up and turning from hard left to hard right full lok. do this until resevoir stops bubbling and pump stops whining.
Matthew Werner
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Thursday, February 28, 2008 - 10:28 pm, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

put a 2j starter in.. i put one in mine.. it looks physically smaller but damn it spins her over with ease an will probly out last the normal duty one.. ask neil griffiths what model exactly to get..


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David Wilson
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Monday, March 10, 2008 - 01:56 pm, by:  David Wilson (Davieeeee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Chris, youre probably right. It appears that its leaking from that hose area. Does anyone have suggestions as to where I can get one of these? Also, whats in a rebuild kit exactly? Ive never used one before.

Matt, sounds like a good idea. Ill contact Neil. Thanks for the info.

One other thought: Is there any chance that my power steering pump could be permanantly damaged after leaking for awhile? its not making any grinding noises so I assume its OK, or is that a foolish assumption?
Gavin Smith
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Monday, March 10, 2008 - 05:22 pm, by:  Gavin Smith (Gavs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Dave, if it's just been leaking, it should be fine. Toyota generally use "vane" style pumps (no bloody idea what that means) all i know is that you MUST keep fluid in there, otherwise it will start going all cheesegrater-like and wreck your relief valve.

A kit is essentially just all new seals/o-rings etc, so long as you have a bench vice and some arm strength to pull it apart, you will be fine.

NOTE OF CAUTION: make sure you cover ALL internal parts in petroleum jelly aka Vaselene, otherwise when you turn the car over to get fluid into the pump, you WILL root the pump you just fixed.
David Wilson
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 05:05 pm, by:  David Wilson (Davieeeee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gavin, Thanks so much for the info. I did not even know about the petroleum jelly, youve probably saved me a whole lots of work! Cheers!

Any other must do's/dont's before I embark on this mission?
Gavin Smith
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 07:21 pm, by:  Gavin Smith (Gavs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nah mate, she's pretty straight forward. Just don't loose any of the rotor fins!! They're just sat in there. If you're a bit anxious about doing it, do what I have done before and have someone video how you pulled things apart, awesome for the "where the bloody hell does that go?" question
Anuradha Vithanage
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 07:34 pm, by:  Anuradha Vithanage (Lankanrascal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Does anyone know where to get these rebuild kits and the bearings?
Also im not that great mechanically, and a bit hesitant on playing with the pump, anyone in Sydney who has done this before willing to do the job for me? Cheers
David Wilson
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 09:24 pm, by:  David Wilson (Davieeeee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Gavin mate, another excellent idea. Youre on a roll tonight! Ive never thought of video taping the dissassembly before but that makes so much sense.

Anuradha, Im on the same boat as you. Ive never taken one apart, but Im pretty confident in other aspects of the car so I think I'll give it a shot. I was just going to take it to a mechanic at first, but I think the cost difference is just going to be too large so Ill be doing it at home.

Also a big thank you to Neil G who gave me a bit of advice even though he did not have any parts to sell me. Legend!
Matthew Werner
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 09:38 pm, by:  Matthew Werner (Matto_888) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

yer neil is pretty good like that.. so is Lew R, both major contributors to the expansion of people's knowledge of soarers.. Legends fellas
Anuradha Vithanage
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 09:47 pm, by:  Anuradha Vithanage (Lankanrascal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

David where did you end up buying the rebuild kit and the bearings from?
David Wilson
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Tuesday, March 11, 2008 - 10:22 pm, by:  David Wilson (Davieeeee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Nowhere yet. Ill be sourcing them this week. Ill let you know how I go, but Im sure someone will probably able to tell us in the forums soon.
Gavin Smith
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Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 11:35 am, by:  Gavin Smith (Gavs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

You can source the seal kits and bearings from toyota, not sure on prices tho.
Vinh Bui
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Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 01:01 pm, by:  Vinh Bui (Hyudsjk) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Got my power steering fixed for about $350 at my mechanic with a rebuild kit from Toyota.
Anuradha Vithanage
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Wednesday, March 12, 2008 - 01:53 pm, by:  Anuradha Vithanage (Lankanrascal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Cheers David, let us know how you end up. Vinh if you don't mind i was wondering if i can have the contact details for your mechanic, and see if he can do the same for me.
David Wilson
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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 03:37 pm, by:  David Wilson (Davieeeee) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

OK guys Ive *finally* taken off the power steering pump. From what I can see it seems Christian was right, in that the leak appears to be coming from the hose that connects the reservior to the pump. Obviously I just need to replace the hose/use new worm connectors and O ring. My question now is, is it worth rebuilding the pump? Liek I said before the pump didnt make grinding noises etc. So should I just not try and fix whats not broken, or should I do it while its out and considerign that the hose leaked the rest of the pump bearings might be on their way out?
Gavin Smith
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Tuesday, March 25, 2008 - 04:15 pm, by:  Gavin Smith (Gavs) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it's out and you don't need the car, then why not? It will give you a bit more leeway before it does start to leak. Seal kit is approx $90 from toyota, the bearing you only need to replace if there is excessive shaft play from side to side.

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