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Aman Lal
Tinkerer
auckland
soarer 1jzgte

Posts: 13
Reg: 02-2008

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 10:57 am, by:  Aman Lal (Aman_lal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

hey guys im nt sure of wats happening but i think my soarer is under performing.ok..i will start with what i have done to it(mods)..front mount full 3" exhust(rite from turbo)transmission cooler and BFI.its boosting 12.9psi

Now i had another soarer it had all the same mods only thing missing was a trans cooler and that didnt have a dump pipe.it was boosting 14psi

i have a mate that has a 300zx on which he has used boost jets too get 13~14psi with factory mods and only pod filter.thats really fustrating cause soarer's should perform better with these mods and my mates mock me cause my car is not as fast as theres :-(

what should i do to wake this beast up????
need help guys....i almost lost to a type r integra but managed to beat him by a foot or two.....

what do i do?????????
Adrain Parsons
DieHard
Qld
JZZ30 tt

Posts: 580
Reg: 08-2005

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 11:06 am, by:  Adrain Parsons (Ace1975) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

300 is a hell of alot lighter then a soarer ! maybe you motor is alittle tired, how many ks on it?
Aman Lal
Tinkerer
auckland
soarer 1jzgte

Posts: 14
Reg: 02-2008

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 11:42 am, by:  Aman Lal (Aman_lal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

about 180ks but my other soarer was really a surpraise ae.....i mean like the mods this has it shud run better.i even have a surge tank and a 500hp fuel pump on it.
Luke Burt
TryHard
Queensland
Soarer TT

Posts: 220
Reg: 08-2007

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 11:45 am, by:  Luke Burt (Burt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

A surge tank and a 500hp fuel pump, for standard injectors?
With the mods you've listed an integra type R should really come anywhere near that close to you.. All i can suggest would be getting a boost controller, some management, and a tune.
Luke Cairns
Tinkerer
victoria
Single Turbo Soarer

Posts: 58
Reg: 12-2007

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 11:52 am, by:  Luke Cairns (Soarer350) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

aftermarket ECU is the best thing to do next you should see a big jump in power and it will run alot smoother
Aman Lal
Tinkerer
auckland
soarer 1jzgte

Posts: 15
Reg: 02-2008

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 12:01 pm, by:  Aman Lal (Aman_lal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

it has bigger injectors too..sorry ddnt mention that before.but ive heard that soarers dnt do much difference with a aftermarket ecu.ive got a gizzmo boost controller but its not hooked yet so ye maybe the time has come now to use it ae
Kyle Wathen
TryHard
Vic
GTTL

Posts: 450
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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 01:04 pm, by:  Kyle Wathen (Cspot) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Might be running way too rich if you have bigger injectors without getting it tuned.

Aftermarket ECU's make a massive difference, even more so if your running bigger injectors and fuel pump.
Aman Lal
Tinkerer
auckland
soarer 1jzgte

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Reg: 02-2008

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 01:11 pm, by:  Aman Lal (Aman_lal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i guess next step is a aftermarket ecu and tuning..will do that.any tips of which ecu to use??
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

Posts: 3141
Reg: 03-2006

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 04:33 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bigger injectors? WHY? Will be running way too rich and losing alot of power! Go back to the stock injectors, forget whatever crappy advise you heard alsewhere,hehe, and ask the people in the know :-)

Even fit a simple Boost Cut Defender and boost it up to 15psi! This should wake it up...

Lastly.. We dont condone street racing, so i hope this racing was at a track or " private " road? :-)
Aman Lal
Tinkerer
auckland
soarer 1jzgte

Posts: 17
Reg: 02-2008

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 07:09 pm, by:  Aman Lal (Aman_lal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Lol....nope absolutly private road racing.hehe..but i thought that injectors would help in power at higher boost and thats the reason behind my surge tank and fuel pump
Daniel Clarke
Goo Roo
NSW
TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 07:30 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you running stock turbos? If so runt he stock injectors, they are good for up to 220rwkw with an safc or fcd and can go up to about 240-250rwkw with an ecu.
Maurice Diggler
Goo Roo
Victoria
TR44 HF

Posts: 1787
Reg: 06-2006

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Sunday, March 16, 2008 - 09:23 pm, by:  Maurice Diggler (Mau_rice) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

So many duds these days popping up saying "Yeh, she's stock with bigger injectors/fuel pump/fuel pressure reg and no tune-able ECU...

WHAT IS THE POINT OF MAKING RICH MIXTURES RICHER! GOD DAMMIT PPL THIS ISNT A NISSAN!
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

Posts: 2648
Reg: 07-2005

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Monday, March 17, 2008 - 08:13 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Bigger injectors won't do all if you're not giving it the air to use as well. I would really recommend returning the fuel system to stock and adding a boost controller and SAFC. This should see you at 300rwhp.
After that you need to start looking at new turbo options.
Aman Lal
Tinkerer
auckland
soarer 1jzgte

Posts: 18
Reg: 02-2008

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 08:20 am, by:  Aman Lal (Aman_lal) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

ok...but is there any particular reason why the boost wont stay at 13psi as it is its top boost at the moment.i mean when its hits 13psi it quickly drops to 11.5 or 12psi and it doesnt stay at 13psi even at full throttle.i was thinking it mite be fuel cut thing but that wouldd happen after 13.4psi..isnt that true.it seems car is losing boost as soon as it hits 13psi or something
Luke Nieuwhof
Goo Roo
WA
Soarer TT

Posts: 2651
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 06:54 pm, by:  Luke Nieuwhof (Luke_nieuwhof) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It's probably just the spike as it boosts up.
Aka Abedin
Goo Roo
NSW
91 G-TT, 93 GTL 31

Posts: 1109
Reg: 07-2005

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Wednesday, March 19, 2008 - 10:42 pm, by:  Aka Abedin (Soarer_91tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

use good fuel, and take those 440s off.

Look at Dans time, he is running 11s qtr with stock injectors.

my car has full exhaust, FMIC, pod and FCD and on a cold night i see as much as 15psi and on a normal day i get around 13.7-14psi as normal boost. others only see around 11-12psi with full exhaust and few other small mods.

Most cars seem to run different boost from each other.
Luke Cairns
Tinkerer
victoria
Single Turbo Soarer

Posts: 59
Reg: 12-2007

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Thursday, March 20, 2008 - 01:29 pm, by:  Luke Cairns (Soarer350) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

when i used stock turbos i have a full exhaust, front mount, air filter, avc-r and put a microtech ecu on and made 234 rwkw and my mate was running the same setup without a ecu and was only making 205rwkw

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