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Steve Zourkas
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vic
MA70 1jzgte TT

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Reg: 03-2007

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Thursday, August 14, 2008 - 09:56 am, by:  Steve Zourkas (Zork) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

I had a dyno run and only pulled 157 rwkw. Its a little down on what it prob should be. Its got stock boost, any mods are twin dumps, 3 inch exhaust.
I have been told a couple of different things by different mechanics.
I had a compression test don to find all 6 cyl between 130-140 dry test. He said it is a little low, but motor seems to be in good nick, he claims one of the turbos are stufed, considering it is gutless until about 4000rpm.
The guy that dynoed said there is no way one of the turbo's is stuffed as it would not reach the boost levels it does.

My question is, can one turbo still boost up to 13psi at the manifold, but just not as quick as if both were working. I know some of you will say, just take them off and look, but im trying to avoid that. haha. unless they are stuffed.
Rob Rojo
DieHard
NSW
Soarer TT

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Reg: 12-2007

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Monday, August 18, 2008 - 05:05 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Its possible that it has a blown turbo but that power figure is still pretty reasonable and I think it would be too high to achieve with only one working turbo.
Are the either or the turbo's excessively noisy or smokey?
What boost was the car running? (If you don't have a gauge it should say on the dyno printout, Stock boost can change with any exhaust or intake mods)
How old is the Cat convertor? (could possibly be blocked)
157kw's is not that bad but it could also be a bit higher. The fact that you have lack of power down low could be due to the fact that you have aftermarket dumps fitted that could cause more lag & if you have only changed the exhaust side of things you may find the intake side is holding everything up.
Are you still running stock intercooler and airbox?
Shane Haverkamp
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nsw
soarer TT

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Reg: 10-2007

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Tuesday, August 19, 2008 - 11:36 am, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i got mine dyno'd recently and i made 152kw but mine is completely stock.
Steve Zourkas
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vic
MA70 1jzgte TT

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Friday, August 22, 2008 - 01:22 pm, by:  Steve Zourkas (Zork) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

rob,

yes intake box is stock with a K&N filter in it. I have the stock jza70 front mount cooler and pipes.
Rob Rojo
DieHard
NSW
Soarer TT

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Friday, August 22, 2008 - 02:29 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Are you able to upload the printout from the dyno run?
Scott Gates
DieHard
SA
TT

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Friday, August 22, 2008 - 03:05 pm, by:  Scott Gates (Scotty_001) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

157rwkw is not a bad result.
Adrain Parsons
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Qld
JZZ30 tt

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Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 02:46 pm, by:  Adrain Parsons (Ace1975) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

i wouldnt complain about 157 with the setup you have.
Rob Rojo
DieHard
NSW
Soarer TT

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Saturday, August 23, 2008 - 05:00 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

157 Is not a bad result for a stock car but I think there is a lot of room for improvement as mentioned it would be worth having a look at the printout.
My car made 217rwkw with just a 3" single cat back system (stock dumps & cat) ,FMIC, 14psi & pod filter. It also had an emanage blue with no settings loaded so was effectively running ECU as Stock.
Ben Socratous
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SA
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Sunday, August 24, 2008 - 08:51 am, by:  Ben Socratous (Socrates) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

All depends on the dyno and the motor mate. Keep in mind that most run of the mill 1J's these days are getting around the 15yr old mark (up to 18yr for the '70 supra 1J's). For a car that technically made '206kw' at the fly, 150's at the treads through an auto is a fairly reasonable expectation, especially running the stock '70 series cooler and piping!
James Cahir
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ACT
Soarer TT

Posts: 58
Reg: 04-2008

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Monday, August 25, 2008 - 10:09 pm, by:  James Cahir (James987) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

157 sounds about right, mine only made 138 rwkw the other day but it is 100% stock. Depends on the dyno and operator too.
Shane Haverkamp
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nsw
soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 11:49 am, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

for those interested here's my dyno graph:

Rob Rojo
DieHard
NSW
Soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 11:59 am, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

It looks like it is making good power early then just dropping off. It is running rich across the entire rev range. You need to find out why its loosing power up top. Get that sorted and you should get some way better results.
Daniel Clarke
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TT 2.5L 6 cylinder

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 06:06 pm, by:  Daniel Clarke (Dieseltrain) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

Is the gearbox slipping at all? looks like as soon as the lockup clutches kicked in power disappeared? Or a missfire maybe?
Shane Haverkamp
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soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 06:37 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

actually the boost goes from 10psi. down to about 9.5 - 9psi at that little dip.

not sure why
Rob Rojo
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Soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 07:01 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

As soon as it looses power the AFR's richen up even further, Wondering could it be a problem with the ECU?
Shane Haverkamp
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soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 10:08 pm, by:  Shane Haverkamp (Havabeer) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

sounds like one of those problems fixable by spending money...

something i'm not a fan of doing :-(
Rob Rojo
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Soarer TT

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Tuesday, August 26, 2008 - 10:24 pm, by:  Rob Rojo (Rob_tt) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

If it is the ECU it won't be that expensive compared to the turbos anyway (around $100 for a 2nd hand unit), you might want to reset the ecu if you haven't already done so and see if that makes any difference
Braden Murdoch
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NSW
Cressida 1JZ TT

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Thursday, September 04, 2008 - 08:17 am, by:  Braden Murdoch (Ribfeast) Quote hilighted text Edit Post Delete Post Print Post   View Post/Check IP (Moderator/Admin Only) Move Post (Moderator/Admin Only)

That compression is pretty low, mine is around 170ish, and some 1JZs are around 180+ across most cylinders, this may be part of your problem. Also check if you cat is clogged, and wind boost up to 14-15psi.

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